Justin Webb R4 today

Be careful what you wish for. You gotta know any "misogyny bill" will benefit the be-penised women, and no-one else, right?

Definition of a woman? Ohh, soooooo tricksy that one isn’t it, look let’s just be fair to everyone not just the 50% of the population who don’t have a penis and say we don’t need to look in your knickers, we believe you.

It was on ch4 news. DS asked why they had barely mentioned such an important topic.

He’s on holidays from university and they can do short courses/lectures - one was on freedom of speech so this particularly caught his eye.

He said that in his essay on the topic he argued about the dangers of such legislation, and the nature (and danger) of those who want to control free speech/thought. He said he got a really good mark. Maybe unis are not totally lost after all (though he said the arts faculties are the worst).

JKR’s ‘challenge’ to Scots Police has just featured on the 10pm BBC News. Yuseless doing his usual “you’ve nothing to fear” soundbite.

If you weren’t as au fait with the situation as most on this board, then you’d not be much the wiser after watching that. Other than being told that mysogeny hasn’t been included and it’s feared it’ll have a chilling effect on free speech. The Beeb just can’t bring itself to properly discuss the issue.

I’d ask KJK. She seems to have nailed it 😉

Can you imagine being a dictionary editor having to define "woman"?

He probably meant the ones with penises.

Can you imagine being a dictionary editor and potentially having to update/rewrite the definition of “misogyny” to capture the absolute fuckwittery of the word now meaning “everybody” if the elusive, forever-in-the-pipeline Misogyny Bill becomes law in Scotland?

Perhaps they feel they need an initial wave of NCHIs to have a sufficient chilling effect that there'll be no pushback when Baroness Helena TWAW Kennedy's report is produced. And we discover that anyone who says they're a woman are, and that's sufficient for a finding of misogyny.

How much more work do they need to do if they’ve been working on this since 2021?

Just sent an email to the Today programme
Just wanted to say Chapeau to Justin for pressing the woolly brained MSP at 8.10 this morning. His questioning revealed a minister not on top of her brief, and who uttered misinformation (e.g. that voting for the bill was unanimous- it wasn't - it was something like two thirds that voted for it). Justin's questioning refused to accept the waffle and evasions and he is to be congratulated.

Thanks for the links - just sent an email
Just wanted to say Chapeau to Justin for pressing the woolly brained MSP at 8.10 this morning. His questioning revealed a minister not on top of her brief, and who uttered misinformation (e.g. that voting for the bill was unanimous- it wasn't - it was something like two thirds that voted for it). Justin's questioning refused to accept the waffle and evasions and he is to be congratulated.

Yes. At the same time as reporting selves as victims of transphobia etc. There may well be competition for the greatest number of NCHI points available for any one incident.

Yes of course any misogyny hate crime laws will include la dy me n. The first step is to enforce mandatory pronouns of the 'her penis' variety first.

I caught some of it. Peter Tatchell getting a free ticket from the BBC to sound oh-so-reasonable.

Lickspittle BBC journo cringing and wringing his hands - the Scottish govt just wants to make Scotland a happier place to live.

As for the Aussie woman. Is she Diedre Brock?

All these Hate Crime laws are chilling. Not just in Scotland, but as ever Scotland is ahead of the totalitarian progressive curve.

So will men be able to claim they’re victims of misogyny? 😵‍💫

Don't forget to copy in Director General Tim Davie who says he never gets emails about this issue.

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She is such a bloody let down, that woman.

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So when is this “Misogyny Bill” due to become law and why is it taking so long? Are they arguing over the definition of “woman”?

Not really because the report is being compiled by Baroness Helena TWAW Kennedy. As far as she's concerned there is no argument about the definition because everyone is a woman if they say so. (I paraphrase.)

Oh ok. Nevertheless, not a bad position to be holding.

Luckily for him his own speech wasn’t prophetic otherwise he wouldn’t be FM now.

Has Scotland gone back about 400 years and made John Knox the Minister for the Monstrous Regiment?

She also said that they’ve been working on a “Misogyny Bill” since 2021 but wasn’t able to say why this bill couldn’t have been part of the new Act.

So when is this “Misogyny Bill” due to become law and why is it taking so long? Are they arguing over the definition of “woman”?

To be pedantic, he was Justice Minister, not First Minister, at the time of the speech.