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Spanish self ID

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nothingcomestonothing · 29/03/2024 19:20

Couldn't see a thread. Spanish men accused of DV are claiming to be TW and demanding access to the DV refuges where their wives and children have been housed.

<Awaits the poster who periodically informs us that counties with self ID have seen no issues>

https://twitter.com/lierrekeith/status/1773720699640705382

https://twitter.com/lierrekeith/status/1773720699640705382

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Apollo441 · 30/03/2024 00:41

MishyJDI · 29/03/2024 20:37

Hold those responsible for fraudulent claims responsible and prosecute. You don't then shoot trans people due to idiots.....

How the loving fuck are you meant to do that with self-id? Or you happy to prosecute after the harm is done? I suspect that's what you mean. You're a contemptible weasel mate.

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/03/2024 22:20

Still waiting for a reply from @MishyJDI

How do we deal with 'fraud'.

I used to deliver education at a couple of women's refuges. I was SWORN to secrecy, advised ever to tell anyone the locations, especially a man. No men were allowed on the premises (except small boys). They told stories of men scaling the walls, breaking in, stalking staff. Serious, terrifying stuff. There are no lengths they wouldn't go to. Once those locations are out, they are unsafe.

More than happy to support refuges for everyone. But women's refuges have to be safe from men.

ArabellaScott · 29/03/2024 21:44

There can be no such thing as 'fraud' under a system of self ID.

JanesLittleGirl · 29/03/2024 21:37

Yet another example of the law of unintended consequences which, along with the laws of science, cannot be repealed.

PatatiPatatras · 29/03/2024 21:00

Are we going back to lie detectors? Or they are not trans as soon as they commit a crime? Does it matter which crime? Do they have to be caught for the fraud to exist or are they fraudulent even if they are not caught? So self ID applies if no one knows you are a criminal and evaporates once they find out? Or is there some minority report style pre-detection of criminality which limits self ID?
I have so many questions...

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nothingcomestonothing · 29/03/2024 20:47

MishyJDI · 29/03/2024 20:37

Hold those responsible for fraudulent claims responsible and prosecute. You don't then shoot trans people due to idiots.....

How? Literally how? It's self ID. If you say you're trans, you're trans.

This is what you want, isn't it?

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MrsTerryPratchett · 29/03/2024 20:43

MishyJDI · 29/03/2024 20:37

Hold those responsible for fraudulent claims responsible and prosecute. You don't then shoot trans people due to idiots.....

How do you prove fraud?

IcakethereforeIam · 29/03/2024 20:42

Bloody hell Humza, you're supposed to be running Scotland into the ground not telling MN how to tell which ones are 'at it'. But as you're here, how do you do that exactly?

MishyJDI · 29/03/2024 20:37

Hold those responsible for fraudulent claims responsible and prosecute. You don't then shoot trans people due to idiots.....

ArabellaScott · 29/03/2024 20:22

God almighty. Shame on those who facilitated this.

IcakethereforeIam · 29/03/2024 19:30

I read about this a few days ago in Spiked

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/03/26/spains-trans-equality-law-is-a-predators-charter/

https://archive.ph/Z00Kj what the Spanish for 'no paywall' is

I posted it in the general conversations thread. I made a similar point about the self id. It's horrific while simultaneously being something that never happens 😕

Spain’s ‘trans equality’ law is a predator’s charter

Gender self-ID has eviscerated women’s rights.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/03/26/spains-trans-equality-law-is-a-predators-charter