Spanish self ID

The Spanish press is now reporting that two men in Galicia found guilty of hiring an assassin and disabling their victim, changed their identity documents to female , declared themselves lesbian and demanded any searching to be done by females. Eventually they were given places in a newly built mixed prison where it is presumed behaviour will be better so as not to lose their privileges . No other changes made in seeking this recognition of their identity.

this is clearly not equality in action.

Thank you for flagging that. It's a live example of how much of the narrative of "anti trans" sentiment is actually coming from supposed allies using extremist rhetoric to bolster their own political capital by inflating the threat and inflaming the fear.

It is. None of it makes sense because it's all based on fantasy.

It's really quite extraordinary that grown adults who should, and do, know better have allowed themselves to be complicit in the febrile imaginings of a handful of highly motivated men.

It should, of course, instantly preclude each and every one from ever holding a position with even the smallest amount of power.

Are you suggesting that some trans people aren't real trans people?

That's transphobic. Cancel yourself.

This is horrific. Those poor women and their children, trying to live safely and in peace.

It is entirely consistent (if I may use such a term) with the rest of this illogical and incoherent ideology.

That is precisely what they mean.

When asked how many women and children harmed are UNacceptable levels of collateral damage in the interests of not making males sad, they never answer. But the ballpark seems to be N (where N = 'number already harmed') plus one. Forever.

God some people don't think before they type do they!

We have been told time and time again that anyone who says they are transgender are transgender. Thems the rules! We can't question that or not believe it. 100% capitulation has been demanded of us.

Add in Self ID, which removes any checks on the veracity of the statement that a man is a woman, and there is nothing to stop any man who wishes to from circumventing laws designed to help women.

But the response 'hold the frauds to account and prosecute them' is so illogical and idiotic that it makes me want to bang my head on a wall.

How in the fucking fuck can you prosecute someone and call them a fraud when the law specifically allows them to say they are whoever the hell they say/feel they are.

How do you tell the difference between the good man with special feelings in his head and the bad man with fraudulent special feelings in his head.

What part of self ID and if they say they are transgender then they are do trans rights activists not understand?

@MishyJDI I am really interested, can you please explain how this could be managed properly under self-id? I’m sure you can’t really mean that it’s ok for the women to be attacked, then just deal with it afterwards?

I think more and more that some posters like the humiliation for motivations of their own.

Poor Mishy. We can't smile without you!

I also don’t like being deleted

but meh 🤷🏻

Anyone who knows me on here knows i don’t like to be rude

but god you’re an idiot

'We're going to make it completely legal for men to fraudulently claim they're women, because TRAs. And then get told to arrest them for doing so, because TRAs.

And then get called idiots - by you guessed it! TRAs.

We're calling it 'Mishy's Law'.

I would also like to know how we identify those who are acting fraudulently within a system of self ID.

Entirely predictable, entirely predicted, entirely evil. TWAM.

Haha. I'd love to see how a country prosecutes its citizens for abiding by its own laws.

Do you see the problem with self ID yet Mishy or do you still not give a shit?

you can’t test for genuine cases- how exactly would you do that? And good luck demanding some form of gate keeping now.

If you insist on gender being a) undefined and b) only known to the individual how the hell can you accuse anyone of fraud?

Let's not insult hardworking teachers and volunteers by doing regular safeguarding checks before and during their employment - just prosecute any who abuse their position.

What could go wrong?

As ever, Mishy and co's solution is to deal with it after women and children are harmed.

Fuck that. No men in these spaces. None. Ever.

Yes, somewhat undermined by Humza Yousaf then claiming Isla Bryson was 'at it' gender.

How do you do that? Please explain.

Shoot trans people? If you'd like to point out where someone has suggested that (other than yourself) I will join you in a campaign to hold them accountable.

I seem to remember this point being made during the Scottish debates.

Yeah, cos we all know they are genuine trans until they commit an offence and then all of a sudden they're fraudulent and not to be confused with the genuinely genuine trans.