Leaving Kindland

My husband and I both independently read this article when it was published and spoke about it in disbelief and disgust. Peaked by the BBC...who'd of thunk it?! The lesbians who feel pressured to have sex and relationships with trans women - BBC News

Never been an inmate ( not a typo) or even much of a visitor, ever since a well known trans sexual (as they called themselves, HQ) tried to gatecrash my twenty first birthday party. That was a deeply troubling and disturbed person with a malign influence on the social circle.

Also, ten years later, observed the transition of a friend , another disturbed person, and witnessed their transformation from a needy but basically benevolent person into a raging egoist and then misogynist. ( They are quite a well known TRA ).

I expect this post to be deleted, although it is a true relation of my experience in 1970’s and ‘80’s.

My leaving of Kindland was a few years ago now. I am a psychiatrist, and there was a bed management discussion in our inpatient unit about which ward a new patient should be admitted to. I couldn't believe that some were advocating for a severely psychotic male offender (not a sex offender) to be accommodated in a secure female ward full of psychotic and very damaged women. It wasn't down to me in the end, but he went to the male ward. I realised then what a slippery slope this could be.

Definitely worth a thread, an excellent article.

My son (21) remarked the other day that he had been thinking about a conversation we had when he was a teenager, where i had insisted that if he ever noticed attempts to redefine language he had to look at how the worst dictatorships used these tactics to smuggle in genocide and totalitarianism.
At the time he remarked I was "going off on one" and was being "ridiculous".
Now, as an adult, he has thanked me for insisting he asks hard questions and be prepared to go against the crowd.
Who would have thought we would have arrived here in such a vanishingly short time?

Lia Thomas.

Before that, I was keen to continue sweeping away racism, sexism, homophobia and reactionary, judgemental hate in all its forms. I heard the term TERF and I remember telling my friend, I wasnt going to be one, i was inclusive.

Then 6ft4 Lia Thomas won in a women's race.Taking accolades and prizes from women, despite it being obviously unfair. And no one doing anything about it.

Found a discussion on Mumsnet AIBU, jumped down this little rabbit hole and here we are!

there may be a tiny percentage of children worldwide experiencing profound and persistent gender dysphoria, but all the children presenting as trans in the last 10 years cannot be in that category

Before gender identity ideology swept the board, it was generally accepted by medical professionals that the percentage of people with profound and persistent gender dysphoria was something like 0.01%. Now, the number of trans people is supposed to be around 0.5%. In other words, an increase by 50 times.

That is fantastic. The paragraph about the existence of trans children put so elegantly my concern, that there may be a tiny percentage of children worldwide experiencing profound and persistent gender dysphoria, but all the children presenting as trans in the last 10 years cannot be in that category. I’ve left Kindland this week too. I told one adult child that they are welcome to bring their trans friends to our house, and I will welcome them, and that I hope to find them well and happy, although , I fear they may have ruined their health and future in pursuit of a dream. I told the other that I was very pleased they’d fallen out with their polyamorous/ kink identified friends, and I hope they choose better friends in future, because kinks coexist with other kinks like paedophilia, bestiality and sado masochism , and nice people steer clear. My Dh says I upset them. So be it.

That's a very good read. I understand the feeling that we must be tolerant and then, faced with the bullshit reality, say, "Just hang on a minute!" I think many of us had similar views, before having an epiphany.