Does anyone else not care if a 'hate incident' is recorded against them?

But have we actually ascertained that will (or can) happen?

As I said on the other thread, if the police don't investigate the complaint further, they won't be able to identify the specific individual and therefore won't be able to record anything against that specific individual. Yes, they will have a name but it's just that, a name. Not a specific individual's verified identity.

So if Joe Bloggs complains to the police that Jane Doe said something mean on Twitter and here's Jane Doe's Twitter handle, if the police look at Jane's comment and decide it wasn't mean and they're not going to investigate further, then they won't know who Jane Doe is.

Obviously Jane Doe knows who she is, and might be concerned about the situation. But the police don't know which Jane Doe she is. Yes, they will have a record that "Joe Bloggs complained that Jane Doe tweeted something mean" but that doesn't identify who Jane Doe is.

Anyway, the police don't have a file on everyone in the UK, just in case they ever need to record something on it about you. If someone made an allegation against you, the police would need to investigate, if only to ascertain the identity of the specific individual who is the alleged perpetrator. For reported non-crime hate incidents where the police decide there's nothing worth investigating, they're not going to know the identity of the alleged perpetrator. The person's name, yes. But that could be the same name as dozens or hundreds of people in the UK.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5035721-an-msp-murdo-fraser-threatening-legal-action-against-police-scotland-after-his-twitterx-post-was-logged-as-a-hate-incident?page=1

It won't have any affect on me jobwise so I couldn't give a f##k in that respect but if it caused me to fail a DBS check for any voluntary work I would kick up an almighty stink until it was overturned and I received a grovelling apology.

A lot of perceived 'hate incidents' will become criminal offences in Scotland from 1/4/24, including tweets and other social media posts.

And it looks like you don't even have to live there to be affected. Crazy stuff.

What does it matter if you never did anything criminal but the police kept records of you regardless, on the basis that someone phoned them to tell them and tell on you? Is that a serious question?

I'm not sure there is a law? Isn't it purely a police initiative?

I don't care a jot, i'm a nmw retail worker so it won't affect me anyway, but I am vocal in real life about my beliefs too. I don't understand how telling the truth is a hate crime, it's madness. I do understand why people do keep quiet though, it's hard to be vocal about your principles and beliefs when you have to keep a roof over you and your childrens heads. It's just so sad that you can't be honest about your beliefs if you are in that position.

It would upset me but not actually affect me practically. The threat of it wouldn’t make me disbelieve that biological sex can’t be changed and I won’t lie about that to avoid this.

I am fortunate i suppose in that I have DBS checks for volunteering with children but not employment. So I might find out, so I could kick up merry hell, but it wouldn’t impact my income. I’ll see if my scout leader comes knocking!