Does anyone else not care if a 'hate incident' is recorded against them?

What would be the implications, if any, for something like engaging with Social Services?

I.e., imagine you have an incident recorded against you. For some reason, you later need to have social services involvement (bearing in mind that if someone has a dislike for your views, they could in theory report you maliciously). Would Social Services see this on your record and might that have an impact on how they dealt with you?

Obviously this only applies to people with young children.

This is delightful. I don’t even live in the UK or Ireland. But one of my adult children lives in Scotland. So if I can’t persuade my child, I’m hopeful one of the Scottish based Mumsnet witches will oblige in reporting one of my Tweets. The one where I state India W is a man would be ideal. If everybody reports everybody the police will be made to look like idiots and we will prove this new law is unworkable.

I believe it is because there aren’t enough police officers nor enough court time to deal with it, it would overwhelm the system.

So does this mean when feminists are accused of being funded by Christian Fundamentalists we can perceive this as a hatred towards Christian Fundamentalists and report it as a hate crime under the characteristic of religion?

Also regular FOI requests asking Police Scotland how many staff have been recruited/redeployed to cope with 1) complaints and 2) SAR's.

Also, we will all have to submit regular SARs.

Can you imagine the optics of the Police spending so much time on this when crimes can't even be investigated. The criminal fraternity will be laughing and regular citizens will be furious.

I know! I think it's safe to say we are definitely becoming second class citizens in law.

Women get so much hate and abuse it’s odd it’s left off

I mean the law is ridiculous and dystopian but still, what’s with always leaving the obvious misogyny out

Well, many accusations of "transphobia" are probably also homophobic. But it sure would be interesting if the reporting system were flooded with instances of misogyny... under "sexual orientation" (as the closest category to "sex-based") if need be.

Misogyny isn't covered by the bill though unfortunately.

• Race
• Religion
• Disability
• Sexual orientation
• Transgender identity

I find the whole thing extremely concerning. The police have said the name will be noted on the file of the person reporting it - but they can report it anonymously, so where does the 'offenders' name go then?

April 6th in Edinburgh will be interesting. I hope many women turn out.

Hmmm…
I wonder if Hagpie knows MargarittaPie?

The gleeful telling off and insults to the women of FWR, coupled with bizarre detours in thought - may suggest kindred spirits? I’m sure they’d mesh well.

I am very worried about extension of government powers but yes a lot of you should be on a list.

Given that I always get swabbed for explosives and searched on leaving the country, I suspect I'm already on one!

However whats your thoughts on the following:

Any discussion on abortion and potential amendments regarding Down Syndrome
Women deserving female only rape services or medical examiners
Israel and Palestine

Even moderate stances on all of those could easily be reported as hate if noticed by the "wrong" people (I.e. anyone who disagrees or has an axe to grind). How can we discuss and debate anything if it can be immediately shut down and the police involved?

I still have relatives in Russia and I find this terrifying.

Sometimes people get the message by education and lessons in basic decency and sometimes “the moon is made of cheese/vaccines cause autism/5G causes cancer” crowd can be assumed beyond savings and laughed at.

I find the moon is made of cheese people to be more equivalent to the people who believe that men are women. Both things can be throughly debunked by facts.

When I think how many reports mnhq alone likely get on this site and then extrapolate it to nearly the whole world reading stuff online and getting upset at whatever

How on earth is this going to work? How has Scotland decided this is plausible

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Great!

On 1st April, I shall reload this page, whereupon this misogynistic hate that Hagpie has written will be taken to have been published in Scotland, and I shall report it.

You lot are weird.

A situation for which the adjective Kafkaesque is perfect.

Even if we aren't affected personally, it's a sinister, insidious act, contrary to justice, in my opinion. A secret judgement against you, which you can't know about, unless by serendipity and one which is very difficult to challenge.

Sorry Wicked! List Exclusionary Radical Feminist!

Back to the thread. I personally wouldn't really be affected if I was on a list. But the whole shitshow around this will be enormous. I still can't believe it's been allowed to stand.

My brain hurts.

I would be affected, if I were to go on a list. I need visas to work abroad and that could scotch any chance. I work for a number of different companies and a couple will ask annually, for a DBS check.

Would it be exclusionary of me to say that I wouldn't?

I wouldn't too. I feel terrible for not being inclusive now. I'm a LERF.