Planet Fitness Trans Saga

It looks like @MissLucyEyelesbarrow is right

Since she did try to raise it with the front desk do you revise your view?

There was video footage. It was exactly as described.

Gosh this is giving me WiSpa flashbacks.

All the abuse heaped upon the woman who objected to the transwoman with an erect penis in the naked spa section. It all just echoes, doesn't it.

Attack the women, question their motives, tone, beliefs, affiliations, character.

Just don't look at the man in the changing room with the young girl.

So as long as he wasn't shaving it would be okay for him to be in the changing room with the 12 year old girl?

Isn’t that just the standard smear these days? Links to q anon, the far right, the religious right, the proud boys, the gammons, the Karen’s, regular seances with Hitler and always received coal from Santa?

If it were untrue, don’t you think PF would have mentioned that by now?

If he can legally be there, he can legally be naked there. Everyone should go to their local PF and ask: Can you guarantee my 14 year old daughter will not see a penis in the women's changing room?

Apparently with QAnon links, so not sure "sensible" is the term I'd be using. Which is a real shame.

I find it hard to believe that some LGBT guy started shaving in a woman’s change room with a 12 year old just randomly sitting there and allowed himself to be photographed. It sounds rather unlikely.

I did a quick search into the topic as the share price is recovering and I wondered if this was all a flash in the pan. I found the following on msn.com:

Following the incident in which a "biological male" allegedly exposed himself to the 15-year-old at Planet Fitness in Monroe, Georgia, Jakorbie Dixon, 25, of Conyers was arrested. He faced "multiple warrants for public indecency by exposing himself in the female locker room," the local police department stated.
The teen's family then filed a lawsuit against Planet Fitness. Representing them, attorney Bart Benton claims the fitness chain was aware of Dixon's alleged lewd behavior before exposing himself to the teenager.

The gym chain had already been facing days of criticism over a separate incident involving a man inside a women's locker room in the presence of a child.
And last week more criticism came after it stood by its decision to cancel the membership of the Alaskan customer who reported a "man in women's locker room shaving" while a 12-year-old girl was present.

A spokesperson for Planet Fitness told local media that the customer took an image of a person inside a locker room, which violates the company's mobile device policy and goes against the gym's "judgment-free" rules.

Planet Fitness, on its website, says that it champions diversity and provides an environment "where everyone feels accepted, respected and like they belong."
The website lists the fitness company's non-discrimination policy regarding gender identity and locker room accommodations, which states in part: "Members and team members will be treated according to their self-reported gender identity." The policy also addresses locker room usage and says that staff and gym members "may use Planet Fitness locker room facilities and programs based on their self-reported gender identity; these facilities include bathrooms, showers, and all other facilities separated by sex."

The policy notes that if "a serious concern or significant doubt" about a person's transgender or nonbinary identity arises, Planet Fitness employees are encouraged to address their concerns with the club member. If that fails to resolve the concerns, staff may request "external evidence of the member's asserted gender identity." If a gym member "improperly asserts a gender identity," they may be asked to leave and their membership may be revoked, according to the fitness chain's policy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/planet-fitness-stock-tumbles-as-boycott-calls-grow/ar-BB1kiCCI

If true, what a mess. At least Planet Fitness is upfront about being a judgement-free zone in all aspects of the word.

Yes, it would seem that PF are OK with a girl child wearing only a towel.being alone with a grown man in a changing room. I guess they don't believe in safeguarding
It's only a matter of time before something really nasty happens.
Still,.it's good news that PF is losing millions.Their contempt for women and girls is costing them.

The attempts at shutting women up by reminding them that proper women don't make a fuss are just bouncing off. It's is a joy to behold. Good work, ladies!

All sorts of revolting things used to be legal. In my lifetime marital rape was legal. Laws change when brave people challenge them so the fact that the misogynistic gym owners think that it's OK for a male to be in the ladies doesn't mean women have to accept that and roll over. Of course the woman had to take a photo. No one believes anything a woman says when a man with gender is speaking. We need proof.

thanks for the link.

She sounds like a sensible woman.

She told him to leave because he was obviously male. When he told her he was LGBT, she went to the front desk. They gas-lit her by claiming he was female, and refused to act.

According to her own social media posts, she did nothing of the sort.

No you haven't, because the woman tried the things you suggested, and got nowhere. She only started getting angry (rightly!) when they gaslit her and refused to act.

So what would you have done then?

I already did in my earlier post...

I don't see why that's a safe assumption at all. Gender identity has nothing to do with superficialities like clothes and shaving: if he claims to be a transwoman then he's a transwoman, and it's transphobic to suggest otherwise.

So, if the male had been wearing a skirt and wig, it would have been fine for him to change in front of a 12 year old girl?

While you're thinking that through, maybe have a look at the percentage of incarcerated TW who are sex offenders (HM Prison Service figures).

Bullcrap. You do whatever it takes to bring maximum shame and financial misfortune on the company who enables this shit.

U R bonkers

The trans people I know (and I don’t know all trans people, hence why I pointed out the ones I know) just want to get on with living in the gender they feel they are. They wouldn’t want to be clocked so wouldn’t put themself in that position. They don’t want to draw attention to themselves.

If this person was doing a male activity (shaving) dressed in typical male clothing, with no attempt to pass as female then I think it is safe to assume that they were being disingenuous and using self ID as a loop hole to access a space they have no business being in.

So tell us exactly how the woman should have handled it.

Because, until you do, you're just another of the tedious misogynist chorus on SM, who exist only to tell women, "You're doing it wrong", whatever they do and however they do it.

No, I already posted earlier in the thread explaining this so I'm not going to repeat myself, but there's no need to #bekind and shut up.