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Angela Rayner in the Guardian

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Justme56 · 24/03/2024 12:51

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2024/mar/23/angela-rayner-roots-rough-edges-ready-for-power

‘We have biological women and we have trans women. And they’re both women: one is a biological woman through sex and one is a trans woman who has transitioned. Most of the public can get that.’

Angela Rayner on roots, rough edges and being ready for power: ‘You can’t go through the childhood I had and not have any fallout’

She’s blunt, bolshie and terrifies the Tories. But if Labour gets into government, the deputy leader will be one of the most powerful women in Britain. Bring it on, she says

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2024/mar/23/angela-rayner-roots-rough-edges-ready-for-power

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Blanketsburg · 24/03/2024 13:17

As with anyone who repeats some version of this statement, it means one of two things.

She either believes it, which means she is stupid; or she doesn't believe it, but is saying it anyway, which means she is a liar. Neither is a good quality in positions of power.

Cowards or Liars

Blanketsburg · 24/03/2024 13:17

As with anyone who repeats some version of this statement, it means one of two things.

She either believes it, which means she is stupid; or she doesn't believe it, but is saying it anyway, which means she is a liar. Neither is a good quality in positions of power.

UltraLiteLife · 24/03/2024 13:16

I wonder if the general public is more aligned with this attitude. (It's a 2min+ clip and interesting.)

BASED. Juiian Erosa calls out cheating men in his post fight interview

"I don't like cheaters. ... I wanted to encourage [Lia Thomas] to transition from women's swimming into women's MMA, and then I'll transition into become a woman and beat that dude's ass."

https://twitter.com/Riley_Gaines_/status/1771851374478704893

And, in other news, I see Katie Sheldon was displaced from a darts title that should have been hers.

https://twitter.com/MuinteoirChris/status/1771818104407949426

https://twitter.com/Riley_Gaines_/status/1771851374478704893

WallaceinAnderland · 24/03/2024 13:13

People are genuinely getting pissed off with this now.

Do they think we are so stupid we will believe males and females are the same thing?

Do they hear themselves?

Whatsnewpussyhat · 24/03/2024 13:12

Pure idiocy.

Especially when the majority of men who claim to be women don't actually 'transition' at all.

What is the magic sweet spot where these men have supposedly transitioned then? Lipstick, long hair or getting their penis cut off?

The general public don't buy it either. They know men are no type of women.

WallaceinAnderland · 24/03/2024 13:12

'We have biological women and we have trans women. And they’re both women: one is a biological woman through sex and one is a trans woman who has transitioned.'

The only way that statement makes sense is if the word woman includes male people.

Taking the 'sex' classification out of the word woman means that we don't actually need that word any more because that was it's only purpose. If it no longer only means 'biological woman through sex' then it's obsolete.

What word would she suggest to replace it?

Idiot.

HermioneWeasley · 24/03/2024 13:09

So male women as well as female women then. Goodbye women’s rights

fedupandstuck · 24/03/2024 13:09

So patronising. I can "get" what she's saying but I simply and wholeheartedly disagree. Transwomen transition (to whatever degree and in whatever way they choose) and remain male, and a subset of men.

WaterWeasel · 24/03/2024 13:07

So much for women = adult females which I think was Starmer's last take. Utter crap the lot of it.

Ineedamanicure · 24/03/2024 13:05

This woman is about to be elevated into a position where she will actually world some authority. Terrifying.

SinnerBoy · 24/03/2024 13:03

Oh dear indeed.

DustyLee123 · 24/03/2024 12:56

Oh dear.

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