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The TRA banging thr symbol in the horses face

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Eminybob · 24/03/2024 11:42

How can anyone watch this and yet still side with trans rights?
Do people think this behaviour is justified, because GC women wanting to protect their rights are evil incarnate?

Why is this behaviour not peaking the world?

And why do so many otherwise sane individuals think its OK to refer to a rapist as she and house him in a women's prison?

I've just had enough of it all.

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Brefugee · 24/03/2024 18:57

Also the things that American chap was shouting, in full view of the police. And the police? absolute fuckers did nothing at all. Nothing.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:56

Thanks Gaspode for the link. I wonder if the HeraldSun will clarify what happened.

Snowypeaks · 24/03/2024 18:56

quantumbutterfly · 24/03/2024 18:50

Yes I'm sure all those using it are great readers of Dickens.Hmm

They probably aren't, but that is nevertheless the origin of the term.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:54

Either way, grabbing a person by the throat is not acceptable behaviour either.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:54

I have looked at the end of the footage. I am not sure that he has done anything but turn and leave. I cannot see where Shane 'antagonised' the trans protestors except to be there and to live stream the event as an 'auditor'. He even says, I am going to get going at 1:21 ish.

At 1.25 the male protestors come and crowd him and he leaves. They demand he stops filming. I don't believe that they are legally allowed to prevent him from filming.

At 1.26 he is asking if the police are going to stop the the harassment and the following. They did nothing.

At 1.27 he clearly tells Emma to go inside.

I would be very interested to see if this man 'attacked' or was he responding to having his phone and his tripod knocked out of his hand.

quantumbutterfly · 24/03/2024 18:50

Snowypeaks · 24/03/2024 18:23

No it's not. It's from Charles Dickens' time and it refers to an elderly/late middle-aged man with inflexible, conservative or populist opinions. The red face, likened to gammon, is from his diet which includes lots of meat.

It's rude, but it's not racist.

Yes I'm sure all those using it are great readers of Dickens.Hmm

Froodwithatowel · 24/03/2024 18:49

I'm sure slave traders said exact the same thing.

They just chose a different skin tone to dehumanise other humans about.

I despair, I really do.

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 18:47

Froodwithatowel · 24/03/2024 18:44

So you're prejudiced and discriminatory to people based on their age and skin colour.

Mhm.

That's about as righteous as trying to frighten animals and telling people to kill themselves, choosing a particular group to behave appallingly towards does not make the behaviour ok. Even if you pick really fashionable groups to pick on where you get lots of applause from people hard of thinking.

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I’m sure they will recover.

Froodwithatowel · 24/03/2024 18:44

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 18:24

i didn’t know that! That’s interesting.

well, I absolutely don’t care about being rude to white conservative men so that’s ok.

So you're prejudiced and discriminatory to people based on their age and skin colour.

Mhm.

That's about as righteous as trying to frighten animals and telling people to kill themselves, choosing a particular group to behave appallingly towards does not make the behaviour ok. Even if you pick really fashionable groups to pick on where you get lots of applause from people hard of thinking.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:42

WickedSerious · 24/03/2024 18:39

The one were a group of lesbians were (shock horror) meeting without TRA's permission?

yes.

And then he went to Hyde Park I think.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/03/2024 18:41

Yes, imagine! Not a single male person in attendance.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:41

Just listening Gaspode, this is the full video clip. At the end it is the clip that I expect that was in the HeraldSun article.

So, this guy is an auditor. He also asked the police over and over if they were going to allow the group to keep harassing him.

He mentions Emma sometimes in the video as well.

WickedSerious · 24/03/2024 18:39

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:36

the Laughing Auditor?

The one were a group of lesbians were (shock horror) meeting without TRA's permission?

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:36

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/03/2024 18:35

Shayne Wicker is his name.

I remember the chap who just happened to be passing an event in London a few months ago, or possibly longer - he started filming on the offchance and was astounded at the violence and aggression he was seeing from the people trying to stop the event happening. I can't remembe what it was or I'd search for it.

the Laughing Auditor?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/03/2024 18:35

Shayne Wicker is his name.

I remember the chap who just happened to be passing an event in London a few months ago, or possibly longer - he started filming on the offchance and was astounded at the violence and aggression he was seeing from the people trying to stop the event happening. I can't remembe what it was or I'd search for it.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:32

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/03/2024 18:26

From what I've seen, the big chap attacked at the Melbourne Let Women Speak event yesterday was called Shayne or Shane, and livestreams protests under the name Auditing Australia. If this is correct, he was there to document what was happening, not necessarily to identify with either side.

This extended footage is probably relevant. I haven't had time to look at it. https://www.youtube.com/live/e4Bv7M8cp7A?si=uH5Ett-O3Xh1Oqk6

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thanks Gaspode.

This is interesting because last time it was one of these type of YouTubers who posted the footage that discredited many of the claims last time that women were connected with the 'far right'.

As you say, often they are not there to support either side. They are there for the clicks. It could also be what the man who was reported in attacking the trans supporters was doing too. I am interested in seeing just who was doing what because it takes a lot of work to sort through these clips.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/03/2024 18:28

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 18:24

i didn’t know that! That’s interesting.

well, I absolutely don’t care about being rude to white conservative men so that’s ok.

Well, aren't you edgy. I generally try to treat everybody with respect and hope for it to be reciprocated. White conservative men, if you mean socially conservative men, would include my beloved Dad who died last year, and who was a gem.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:27

Brefugee · 24/03/2024 18:14

the footage of the Trantifa attacking that guy, telling him to kill himself, saying they would kill him and calling him a nazi confuses me. What happened? Later tweets say he was with his 11 year old daughter, and she had her hair pulled. He was filming the TRA?

Well, I am asking Fixerupper to explain the relevance of their post and maybe they can clarify if this is the one they meant.

Because it seems that this man was filming the violent and intimidating male protestors who was following him and his daughter. Of course, at this stage we don't know what led up to these clips.

however, it was posted for a reason, let's see what that reason was and let fixerupper tell us all if the is the man, and then they can tell us more about they posted it and what their intention was.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/03/2024 18:26

From what I've seen, the big chap attacked at the Melbourne Let Women Speak event yesterday was called Shayne or Shane, and livestreams protests under the name Auditing Australia. If this is correct, he was there to document what was happening, not necessarily to identify with either side.

This extended footage is probably relevant. I haven't had time to look at it. https://www.youtube.com/live/e4Bv7M8cp7A?si=uH5Ett-O3Xh1Oqk6

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 18:24

Snowypeaks · 24/03/2024 18:23

No it's not. It's from Charles Dickens' time and it refers to an elderly/late middle-aged man with inflexible, conservative or populist opinions. The red face, likened to gammon, is from his diet which includes lots of meat.

It's rude, but it's not racist.

i didn’t know that! That’s interesting.

well, I absolutely don’t care about being rude to white conservative men so that’s ok.

Snowypeaks · 24/03/2024 18:23

quantumbutterfly · 24/03/2024 16:56

Gammon is a racist term, were you aware?

Likening the pink skin of white people to pigs ...(For the hard of thinking).

No it's not. It's from Charles Dickens' time and it refers to an elderly/late middle-aged man with inflexible, conservative or populist opinions. The red face, likened to gammon, is from his diet which includes lots of meat.

It's rude, but it's not racist.

Brefugee · 24/03/2024 18:14

the footage of the Trantifa attacking that guy, telling him to kill himself, saying they would kill him and calling him a nazi confuses me. What happened? Later tweets say he was with his 11 year old daughter, and she had her hair pulled. He was filming the TRA?

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:11

Waitwhat23 · 24/03/2024 18:07

Anyone else seeing a pattern here.....

yes. The pattern is very clear.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 24/03/2024 18:07

The police did the right thing. But every single trans activist near that guy did the wrong thing, because they should have dragged their mate away.

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