The TRA banging thr symbol in the horses face

Those trying to clumsily make points about far right alignment don’t like to be reminded of the constant examples of people with backgrounds of such abuse being in their own movement. Not just a false ‘alignment’ but actually as spokespeople, and governors, and ambassadors and so on.

It is way it is only ever people who have little knowledge about what is happening try this ‘Whataboutery’. Because in doing so everyone reading learns a whole lot more about the very people that we are expected to believe are the most vulnerable and most marginalised. Finding out the depth of evidence that proves this as a lie has to be a shock.

Finding out that the male banging a cymbal under the horse’s nose is most definitely a general indicator of male extreme trans rights protestor behaviour must be inconvenient to say the least. It surely is.

I don't understand why I was deleted tbh!

It gets tiring being asked to account for the far right when they've no more in common with GC feminism than they have with trans ideology.

https://deadwildroses.com/2019/10/07/handy-venn-diagrams-the-radical-feminist-position-on-gender/

I illustrated that using the analogy of paedophiles creating the MAP (minor attracted person) pride flag. I specifically said "designed their own flag". My entire point hinges on the fact that a nefarious group can take advantage of another group to further their own aims.

Eg MAPs taking advantage of pride
Eg the far right taking advantage of feminism

If I'd been insinuating that MAPs were affiliated with pride that would have undermined my entire point!

I'd love @mnhq to explain why I was deleted (I received no email)

Or even better, the reporting person to explain which part of my post upset them to the extent it deserved to be removed from the internet?

We did do that exercise actually back last year when discussing the Melbourne event. The supporters of the trans rights activists who were jeering about far right associates couldn't quite comprehend it when used back at them...

It also doesn't mean that the women speaking are associated with Nazi groups, any more than it would mean that the women speaking are associated with the Trans Zealot groups.

For that matter, if we’re attributing guilt by association, why not associate the TRAs with the far right neo nazis? They’re both at the same event protesting. Both being intimidating and thuggish. Both attempting to silence another group with threats of violence. Seems these two groups have more in common than the group of women trying to speak peacefully.

But no doubt such a suggestion would be passionately denied. Fine. If it’s just different groups together at the same event with different agendas, then we can say the same about the women speaking. They have nothing to do with either far right protestors or TRAs activists.

Remarkable how that post got deleted cauli. There are obviously many eyes on this board monitoring posts lately.

I thought it was an apt come back to a weak arsed attempt to deflect from some well established behaviour by extreme trans activists while seeming to backhandedly attempt to just as weakly consolidate feminists as being aligned with 'far right' political entities.

The point is, of course, why do all these rallies require police presence at all?

Because some of the TRA protestors are just there for the fight. There's a big over-lap with the sort of people who go hunt-sabbing and think it's OK to scream obscenities at small children, attack hounds, firebomb vehicles and intimidate hunt staff. You've only got to look at them with their masks, combat clothing and weapons to see the same people popping up.

They'd say their actions are justified for "the cause" but they aren't. They just want a fight. Maybe they genuinely believe that there's a cause (and I think some are genuinely looking for a cause to be angry about) but for many of them I even doubt that too.

Then you've got the kids who genuinely believe that gender critical people are going to kill them. I am absolutely baffled at where this comes from but they believe all the shite about suicide rates, erasure and Nazism, as if people who want to restrict puberty blockers are actually plotting a new Final Solution. They're acting out of fear, misplaced as it is.

Either way, they see gender critical people as "other". We're not worthy of human rights or safety or fairness because we're monsters. Unfortunately, it's not that uncommon, I've been at the receiving end of it. Thankfully not physical violence but bullying where my "wrong views" meant that I was ostracised and accused of all sorts, while absolutely none of them cared what the effect of all that on me might have been. I was deemed to deserve everything I got.

Yet we are told time and again that transwomen are delicate, vulnerable little things and that women are the violent ones.

Are the violent brutes not really trans, or are the TRAs lying? It's sure tricky to work out.

Fixerupper77 · Yesterday 22:14

Why do you think they are attracted to the events? Is it because they know there’s normally counter protest and its an opportunity to cause trouble?

I'd say that they do go, looking for trouble with Antifa and Trans Zealots. That, however, does not make it the responsibility of the women speaking. It also doesn't mean that the women speaking are associated with Nazi groups, any more than it would mean that the women speaking are associated with the Trans Zealot groups.

It's facile to make that suggestion.

Injured a man. Refused to let an ambulance through to him. Surrounded by police who stood there and let it all happen.

doc the heroes there were the stewards. They stood in front of the bulk of the crowd that day. Ovaries of steel those women!

The point is, of course, why do all these rallies require police presence at all? Posters who seem to have fuck all ability to critically think this through seem to forget what has now become standard. No women can now meet without being protested, without attempts at being cancelled or blocked entry.

Some people fucking think these protestors smashing cymbals in front of horses is somehow unusual behaviour. We know it is not unusual at all. It is fucking laughable what some people will overlook to attempt to portray women as irrational or prejudiced.

But once readers see the pattern for themselves, they can’t unsee it.

I applaud you for being there @Helleofabore always throughout history men have used their physical strength to intimidate, silence and control women. Women pay a big price to keep their voices heard and thank god many refuse to be silenced. I’d be very scared to attend one of those rallies for several different reasons.

Thanks Gaspode. That is concerning even if just partially true.

Thanks @Fixerupper77 for posting the news article that pointed out this attack on the man who was not connected to feminists in any way, yet still was attacked by extreme trans activists. Or are you saying they were not trans activists? Either way, thanks for posting your link! It has been enlightening to see just how consistent the behaviour that male protestor smashing at a cymbal in front of the police horse was to the others there on the day.

I believe the two women that were reported to be arrested when the police had to resort to pepper spraying a group of protestors were male and extreme trans activists too.

Great job posting this for us. Thanks.

Ooh I'd forgotten about that batshit moment!

Bloody hell @Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

The result of this violence that we're seeing more and more of is that people are waking up to what's really going on with the TRAs and are actively turning against transpeople. They may not voice it publicly for fear of retribution, but the days of people living quietly as another gender (whatever that means to them) are long gone.

A bit more information about the incident involving the Auditing Australia man and his daughter. I know nothing about any of the people involved so can't vouch for the veracity of any of this, but I'm inclined to believe it, having seen that clip of this one man being aggressively harassed (to put it at its mildest) by a group of several activists.

I was once in the line with other women holding hands to form a barrier to the group of shouting protestors. Even with the police spaced between us it was frightening and intimidating. One woman beside me was so scared she was trembling.

And the horns, the amplified music, drums, it is deafening.

And why are they doing it? Because women are there speaking words that they won’t listen to and they refuse to hear.

That exchange conveys how terrifying the whole TRA protest must feel to those on the receiving end. Absolutely male. Male aggression and male intimidation with the underlying threat of male violence.

And that was a big burly bloke being involved in the altercation. What would a woman feel? As a smaller female I’d feel so intimidated by those screaming, shouting TRA men.

Exactly what they want you to feel.

And the chasing with cameras, my god when did an iPhone or camera become such an aggressive instrument of intimidation? It looks truly medieval.

His attempt at deflecting criticism away from his unhinged “cymbal repeatedly whacked under horse’s nose” behaviour to “poor me, someone once threw some shit at me” is very blatant. He knows full well that the video doesn’t show someone claiming to be a lawyer in a very good light.

https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/qcjtuh/womanshakes_tambourine_while_yelling_repent/

Hard to find a clip with repent motherfucker on but here we go.

While it wasn’t a Let Women Speak event, maybe it is time to remind ourselves to REPENT MOTHERFUCKER!!!

Yeah. I think we can say this male protestor is not an isolated case.

Did you manage to find the clip where the rest of the movement stopped this guy and his behaviour? I've been ill, so I haven't followed this as closely as I usually would.

Do you really need us to document all the disgusting behaviour of this group, going back years and years, at every point that women wanted to meet and have been stopped, blocked, protested, banned, cancelled, threatened, their families targeted, the families of the venues threatened and targeted, all to stop them talking and from being heard? The same tactics, used over and over again, across the globe, all the countries, al the cities, all the same behaviour from the same anti-women group?

This isn't one guy with a cymbal, it is the orchestration of a male rights movement intent on destroying the rights of women to their words and freedoms, and the rights of kids to grow up.

It is kinda why we talk about it and document it on here.

So in no way connected to the women. Bloody Norah, mate, just stop.

Apparently we are to believe that all the cream pies in faces,
the injured limbs due to extreme trans activists trying to damage women’s property,
spraying things in the face,
the following of women screaming,
the wobbling of male naked breasts,
the lighting of flares,
the riding of bikes towards to throw things,
the throwing of soup on, the punching,
and the hitting
and knocking down women,
the assaulting of children,
the screaming at infants,
the wrapping of women in banners and knocking them off their feet,
the hitting of horses,
the clanging of cymbals, drums, stereos,
horns,
electronically amplified horns,
the kettling,
the knocking over….
I can keep going…. but, We are to believe that all this past activity of extreme rights trans activists is not indicative of the actions of extreme rights trans activists…..

It is laughable really. The behaviour some people will overlook in their need to scold women who they don’t agree with on some things.

But here we are. We shouldn’t hold a now established behaviour pattern as representative of extreme trans rights activists. Because, what is it that women are doing that is causing some people to react with so much violence?

Speaking words and telling others of their experience.

That'd be Jack Hudner who punched a granny and got away with it.