#FirstDoNoHarm conference 23 March (Clinical Advisory Network on Sex and Gender)

BoreOfWhabylon · Today 04:53

Dr Ronx is a They/Them who describes theyself as trans nonbinary

Yes, I realise that, but was still a bit sleepy when I posted. It's a shame, my daughter loves Operation Ouch and I have done, too. I wonder if the van Tulleken twins are similarly disposed?

Dr. Wonx is described above as 'unshockable'.

Odd that them should be so distressed by a 'tut'

Why on earth are they objecting to this medical conference looking into what if any science backs up treating children and young people with life altering and harming trans healthcare procedures?

As far as I can tell, the logic is a circular loop that Bad people object to these treatments for various Bad reasons, and they use spurious calls about lack of evidence to do so - but we know they're safe and effective because only Bad people talk about lack of evidence. Any discussion about lack of evidence has Bad motives, and is coming from a Bad person. And we've never heard a Good person say anything about lack of evidence. QED.

I assume Dr Ronx was distressed by being sexualised by men. So had a mastectomy.

This is the link to the full article:

https://www.gscene.com/news/dr-ronx-the-day-i-came-through-from-surgery-was-probably-the-best-day-of-my-life/

I forgot to say, if Dt Rona had these reasons for saying what they did - what if any science backs it up? - about immune system products, why on earth are they objecting to this medical conference looking into what if any science backs up treating children and young people with life altering and harming trans healthcare procedures?

Re Dr Ronx
2021 Pink News
“Dr Ronx lifted the lid on the multi-billion dollar health industry, which peddles products that promise to “boost” or supercharge our immune system – a fairly hot topic due to the current pandemic. They looked at what – if any – science backed up their companies’ claims. Many people celebrated the fact Dr Roux wore a trans flag pin during the episode“

As if trans health care is not a multi-million dollar health industry with not only questionable, but, where children are concerned, potentially deeply harmful consequence’s.
https://www.thepinknews.com/2021/01/07/dr-ronx-ikharia-trans-non-binary/

I totally agree that men behaving would be the ideal, but some of the inconveniences of having large breasts are nothing to do with men.

eg I can imagine for some autistic girls the sensory experience is excruciating and for sporty girls they can affect performance.
Plus back pain, underneath sweat etc.

It’s a big outward-facing change that boys don’t have to deal with. No wonder some girls want to tape them down or wear binders (which seem like torture devices to me!)

Pipe dream, I know, but wouldn't it be great if adult men and teenage boys stopped sniggering, leering etc at very young girls and women and making them feel like shit. What a world we're living in when instead of males having their behaviour challenged females go off seeking surgery to change their appearance.

For someone who writes about amazing bodies it appears that some parts aren’t quite as amazing after all - so much so they can easily be removed and discarded.

I don't get this - Dr Ronx (AFAB in their terminology possibly) stopped going to the gym because of the 'sexualisation of cis men', which I read as a protest against 'cis' men (how can Dr R tell?) being sexualised by others. As in 'cor, cis man, you look really sexy in those lycra shorts' - is that what Dr R means, because that makes no sense. Were they sexualising Dr R when they was still a she? Is that it?

If they simply has the odd BBC contract to front the occasional show or series, then all the BBC can do is not offer them such contracts in the future. They are not staff.

It would be good to see Dr Ronx on a CAN-SG platform but they couldn't possibly afford Dr R as things stand.

I wonder if trans would be so popular amongst teen girls if it wasn’t near impossible to get a breast reduction on the NHS? And if eating disorders would be rarer?

If it were affordable/accessible to take a D+ down to a B or so I imagine a lot of young adult woman would go for it (I realise this has implications for future breastfeeding, so I’m not necessarily advocating for it, just having a think out loud).

When I look at ‘Top Surgery’ results it’s clear that a good percentage of the girls and women opting for it had breasts large enough to be a daily inconvenience, and if they’ve appeared rather rapidly and you can remember a time before them, I can definitely see how the desire to be rid of them could be a massive motivating factor.

'For Dr Ronx, their catalyst for no longer being in the dark about their gender identity was “the extreme unhappiness that [they] were existing within.” They stated that they stopped going to the gym because of the sexualisation of cis men, and eventually stopped going out completely. “The day I came through from surgery was probably the best day of my life.”'

From a panel at a Student Pride event.

The surgery referred to was a double mastectomy.

It's been said many times but bears repeating. The Daily Mail, the Telegraph and The Times report this stuff. The Tories have seized on it as one of the very few ways in which they can appeal to the electorate in a way that the other parties can't, and they're all hoping we will forget it was the Tories who got us very close to having self-ID of gender across the UK. (Penny Mordaunt, Maria Miller, Crispin Blunt, Caroline Nokes and various others are or have been all keen supporters of gender ideology, but Sunak and Truss fortunately aren't. Even a stopped clock ...)

Meanwhile on the left, The Guardian mostly pretends it's not happening, for fear of the yelling from their many TRA members of staff and columnists. Every single political party except the Tories is in a right mess over this, either outright pushing for self-ID and to hell with safeguarding and women's rights, or trying to do a White Queen and believe six impossible things before breakfast.

And the BBC, which should be impartial and objective on all issues, by virtue of it's charter, on this issue at least, isn't. Shameful.

Oh gosh yes. Tutting is like a series of micro aggressions, all strung together. It's a major cause of PTSD. These poor brave activists also require urgent treatment on the field for RSI from lobbing smoke bombs, and laryngeal issues from yelling at medics. Hopefully theys doctor has bravely attended to any injuries from shoulder barging the doors and serious breakdowns from the police failing to affirm theys rights to break and enter as they damn well please.

Is tutting transphobic?

Should I add it to the list?

Breaking into a conference with smoke bombs certainly is violent.

Hope you're not suggesting violent non-consensual co-platforming, you fascist.

Dr Ronx should be on a panel at the next conference and explain their position (and present the scientific studies to back them up).

Not an actor. For hire as a conference speaker.

Not clear if that includes attempting to break into the conference.

www.jla.co.uk/conference-speakers/ronx-ikharia

Not sure Ronx still works for the BBC. They has an agent and can be hired for between 2 and 5k an event.

Ooh, is they an actor?

They is still registered with the GMC. So still a doctor.

Is this still a "false flag"? I guess if Ronx doesn't really work for the BBC?

Unfuckingbelievable.

Declaring you are "non binary" just seems a way for straight blokes who dislike women and want to feel part of something and special to tag themselves on to the trans movement

Well Dr Ronx may not be a BBC employee, but shouldn’t be platformed via the BBC. I think Tim Davie needs to know about this. I feel sad thinking about his empty email inbox, so it will be doing him a favour.

It's one of those irregular verbs.