#FirstDoNoHarm conference 23 March (Clinical Advisory Network on Sex and Gender)

No conference uploads yet but I did find this neat little 1 minute video about the protest from the Telegraph

I wasn't sure where to post this comment (not sure if this thread is still going) but it's hopefully an apt enough place:

I have been trying to ask various sexologist/gender identity therapists about the cohort of adolescent boys and young men who are being pulled in to autogynophilia. Until now I've had no traction at all on the conversation. Although I didn't mention autism this time (I believe this is another key factor in both vulnerability to viewing distress through a "gender lens", as described by Dr Az, and the directed anger/fixation of the vocal TRAs), I did finally get some interaction, albeit a small one: a like from Stella when I asked about this cohort in relation to raising awareness about autogynophilia. I really hope that this is an area that is explored more by Genspect and other experts at the conference. While the majority of young people who are impacted by the damage done by gender identity belief are female, the danger in relation to males is both to themselves and to society. It's a key area that needs focus IMO.

Here's my tweet:
https://twitter.com/BonfireLady/status/1775461978590396705?t=UZU0Zj-iWcBx_OemeGEocw&s=19

The Benjamin Boyce conversation I referred to is here.

The discussion about raising awareness was somewhere in the second half, from memory. I'm yet to see any real movement on this from Genspect and others, but it feels like something that would be common ground between Genspect and women's rights groups.

I was on telly once. They asked me to change my blouse because it looked bad on camera…

I'm not sure if the Ronx clip, offering binder was posted earlier, but here it is (again?)

https://twitter.com/bbcthree/status/1233180011487612928

While I feel very concerned that this was put out by BBC 3, and clearly there was only information related to instant gung-ho trans affirmation for young people communicated by the presenter Dr Ronx, it was clear that the binder Dr Ronx gave the transboy was going to at least do less harm than the one the transboy had been wearing and presumably would no doubt have continued to wear.

This seems pertinent from Maya, it's about the terminology used for NHS trans treatments:

https://twitter.com/MForstater/status/1772296732732268872

That BBC3 clip is grim. 😡

Jo Bartosch has written a good article including a bit about Dr Ronx that is jawdropping

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/03/25/trans-zealots-are-a-threat-to-kids-welfare/

https://archive.ph/njNWh fly like an eagle, over the paywall 🎶

Actually, it's as jawdropping that this was broadcast on BBC 3

in an alarming clip from a BBC Three show that has recently resurfaced, Dr Ronx can be seen offering breast binders to a young woman, even though her past use of binders had led her ribs to pop out

Thank you!

They have a YouTube channel with some previous webinars so perhaps the conference videos will be going there when ready to publish?

https://www.youtube.com/@CAN-SG/videos

Thanks for this; came to ask!

They too are captured sorry. One of them (sorry can't remember which) was questioned about using 'people with a cervix' type terminology and insisted 'people with a cervix' would know they had one. When pressed on this, he suggested if you don't know if you have one you should ask your GP. All in order to avoid saying that there are two biological sexes. Woke idiot.

I watched the puberty episode over DS11's shoulder and thought it was good, v clear language. But it's bbc and I expect they're being very careful at the moment

I asked up thread about the live stream being available and have found the answer!

The conference footage will be free to watch and will be uploaded in the coming days. Please follow our socials, and subscribe to our newsletter for updates.
https://can-sg.org/2024/03/24/conference-2024/

@RethinkingLife case report about the vaginoplasty death here.

If you want the full text and don't have academic access DM me and I'll check if I do. I used to have it and have read the full article but my institution have just re-jigged what journals we get access to so i'm not sure if I still do.

https://www.jpagonline.org/article/S1083-3188(16)30174-7/abstract

A police spokesman said: 'At 9.45am a group attempted to gain access to an event in Euston Square. A smoke flare was set off. No reported injuries or damage.'

The BBC declined to comment. A source said Dr Ronx is not a BBC staff member and so is not covered by the broadcaster's guidelines on protests.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13231759/cbbc-medical-presenter-accused-trans-mob-storm-conference-puberty-blocker-row.html

As so many presenters etc., on tv, including the BBC, are self employed (something I thought the BBC encouraged as not responsible for sick pay, pension contributions etc.,) how can they guarantee impartiality if someone self employed is not covered by BBC guidelines?

Sorry hit enter too soon:

Presenters on flagship shows must not endorse or attack a political party, criticise the character of individual politicians in the UK, or take up an official role in campaigning groups, it said.

Will Dr Ronx Ikharia be judged by the BBC in the same way as they did Justin Webb and also Gary Lineker?

Is it not ironic that in that photo we have the TW full on glam with high heels and long hair whilst Dr R is in a conservative grey suit post mastectomy. All very retrograde sexist stereotypical. Go for it if you wish, but stop forcing everyone to go along with the lie that people can change sex and for gods sake stop pedalling it to children as the pathway to rainbows and unicorns and their true authentic selves. So despicable to use children to calm your own niggling doubts.

They too are captured sorry. One of them (sorry can't remember which) was questioned about using 'people with a cervix' type terminology and insisted 'people with a cervix' would know they had one. When pressed on this, he suggested if you don't know if you have one you should ask your GP. All in order to avoid saying that there are two biological sexes. Woke idiot.

He's not getting any support on that thread, for some unknown reason. Its all gone a bit

Could someone please ask Jolly-On if tutting at exhibitionists and sex pests is transphobic?

https://twitter.com/jolyonmaugham/status/1195054474458521601

Where does that leave our kimono wearing, fox beating acquaintance?

Presumably the protesters stormed the building, screamed and threw smoke bombs first, and then the attendees tutted in response?

Total mirror image of our side at WPATH, innit?

Presumably the protesters stormed the building, screamed and threw smoke bombs first, and then the attendees tutted in response?

Every time a cis person tuts, a trans person dies, you know.

He has a Pride flag, but is followed by@sciencegirl and Louise Tickle:

https://twitter.com/xandvt?lang=en

https://twitter.com/louisetickle/status/1763487933619634599

Yay! I can still watch it.