If you're a man, whatever you feel is what it feels like to be a man

Just like "having a male brain" you'd have to be a man.... BY DEFINITION. Thinking a man might have a female brain is completely backwards thinking.

How would a man with a co-called female brain regulate his hormones etc... oh I know, like a man....

Hm, I'm not sure if I altogether agree with that but I don't have enough philosophy to get into it. It was only a thought experiment. I have some kind of intuition about having a body that is functionally and structurally male/masculine or female/feminine and that's all I meant.

See I said this and got told I was a TERF and should get raped to death. But these 'women' are harmless, right, just want to mind their own business.

@RapidOnsetGenderCritic if there's one thing I think men are fully allowed to mansplain it's being a man!

Yes.

It's just another mad fantasy.

About 'waking up tomorrow in a male body'.

Of course, if you're a woman, it isn't possible for you to wake up tomorrow in a male body.

But this impossibility isn't just empirical or scientific: it isn't just that, as it were, science isn't sufficiently advanced yet, but that one day it might happen. No: the impossibility is logical. Whatever advances are made by science and technology, it could never be possible.

Why so? -Because nothing would count as you - a woman - waking up in a man's body. Whoever that is, there under the duvet, waking in a man's body (that man, in other words), it cannot - could not - be you, because you are a woman.

Human beings are essentially embodied. And individuals humans are related essentially to their individual physical bodies.

Say it again: if you are a woman, no matter who it is waking up tomorrow with a male body, it cannot - and could not - be you.

[--Even René Descartes, for all his mind/body dualism, was aware of this. "I am not merely present in my body as a sailor is present in a ship," he said, "... I and the body form a unit." (See his Meditation VI ... you may find his reasons interesting, too ...)

--And (just one more 'even' ...) even Christian belief, as expressed for instance in the Creed, requires "The Resurrection of the Body" at the end of life on earth. -Why? Because without your body (yes, that physical thing!), it wouldn't be you enjoying the advantages of Paradise (it wouldn't actually be anything ... but that's maybe enough metaphysics ...)]

[Just to be clear ... I am neither Cartesian nor Christian. Just I want to put to rest the nonsense about 'born/waking-up in the wrong body' and to point out the independence of its nonsensicality from denial of dualism or even of immortality.]

Throughout history there has always been "masculine women" and "feminine men". This didn't mean that they changed from women to men or vice versa.

What is the issue here is that there are masculine women who are claiming that because they have masculine attributes or see themselves as masculine that they physically have become a man and feminine men that because they have feminine attributes or see themselves as feminine that they have physically become women.

No they are not, they are just masculine women and feminine men and clearly there is absolutely nothing wrong in this. I believe we are all on a spectrum of masculinity and feminine but it doesn't change the underlying biology making men women and women men.

@JellySaurus 100 times this. Great post and I feel the same.

I remember very well what it felt like to be a girl who didn't fit in with all the other girls. I remember very well my bewilderment at their talk of boys and make up and all those other things that teenage girls talk about, and my isolation when I could not join in. Their blank looks and the change in the conversation if I mentioned my latest Airfix model.

I described myself as having a boy's brain in a girl's body.

But I knew throughout that I was a girl, and, later, a woman. Once I learned to celebrate my difference, found my own tribe of geeks, found my sexual awakening and found a man who loves me as I am, I found that I was still the same person - but happier.

Nowadays I would likely have been sucked in by the trans ideology. But I still wouldn't know what it is to be a man. I know what it is to be a woman who does not conform to stereotypes. I know what it is to be a woman who has accepted and embraced being different.

... never mind the Tooth Fairy

Unfortunately I can’t explain it at all. We can’t decide “who we are” physically - we are what we are, or we artificially alter what we are, and become … what we always were, but altered artificially. I have had to have surgery to make part of me function again following an accident, which makes me what I was before the accident but with a little weakness and scarring. That is now part of my “identity”, and I have to live with the fact that it has left me very slightly disabled.

Hormone treatment and “sex reassignment” surgery can only make someone an artificially altered version of what they always were. At one time, I thought that perhaps this could give someone characteristics equivalent to those of some people with DSDs, but now I’m uncomfortable with that framing. But, like people with a DSD, they remain one sex or the other; they are only cosmetically altered.

Sorry, I have probably fallen into mansplaining mode, albeit in a gender critical way!

I've been a man on Facebook almost since the start. Messes with their advertising algorithms.

Of course it's ludicrous, OP.

Not only not can a man not feel like a woman, he is only going to ever feel like a 'woman' with a penis!

Or a woman who had a penis and then had it removed. An experience that no woman has ever had.

I don't think I've ever yet seen a description of exactly how a man feels like a woman.

One of those American interviewers asked a male student how he knows he's a woman. And the student said because my transwomen friends tell me.

One man telling another man that he's not a man 😃

I do tend to rely on some stereotypes though. But is that what AGPs rely on when pretending to be women?

They say they don't but they can never quite explain what defines a woman. It's definitely not sex stereotypes or biological sex though, no sirree.

Oh dear

Last interview with Jamie:

'“We now live in a country where there is greater clarity on the movement of a packet of beef around the UK than there is for a trans person with a GRC. This situation risks exposing all of us as ridiculous”'

😬

Being a transwoman is a male behaviour.

Thanks OP. I am very much interested in seeing a man explain all this to us. I will wait patiently... and yes .... I have wine!

Yep, that's correct, OP. A man can't experience what it's like to be a woman. He can try to imagine.

Feeling like a woman is very different from being one.

I mean, as a woman with a vagina, I am disadvantaged socially, legally and financially. Being a woman is as complex as being a man, I think. I have no idea what it's like to be a man. I do tend to rely on some stereotypes though. But is that what AGPs rely on when pretending to be women?

But anyway, apart from the obvious inequalites between the sexes, aren't we all just trying to get on in life & make the best of things?

Look at Jamie Wallis, the "first trans MP". (Oh how much that must sting the likes of Izzard and Belcher).

If I was offered a million dollars to say "I'm a man" and change nothing about myself at all except pronouns I might do it. Because that's exactly the kind of "transitions" many of the "trans community" undergo.

Obviously we all just have Shania Twain's "Man, I feel like a woman!" on a loop in our heads at all times, duh. That's what being a woman is all about.

if I was offered a million dollars to transition, I still wouldn’t.

A million dollars to do what to my health? I was talking about just waking up with an opposite sex body (by magic!), they're talking about a fuckton of drugs and surgery to get an unhealthy body that doesn't work properly as either sex.

That's not worth a million dollars.