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Woke change to England flag.

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Careforcarers · 22/03/2024 09:12

Surely flags are flags but no Nike did a 'playful update' adding trans colours to the England football kit.

Imagine changing the flag of others countries!

What is it with companies like Nike that they have to push trans down everyone's throats.

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Snowypeaks · 22/03/2024 10:22

Haven't RTFT, OP, so apologies if this has already been pointed out. They're not "trans colours", don't even look like them.
Nike says it's meant to recall the 1966 side, which doesn't seem inappropriate! I can understand traditionalists being upset, though, because it's not immediately recognisable as the flag of St George.

TathingScinsel · 22/03/2024 10:19

JSMill · 22/03/2024 10:11

That's actually really nice. They should be selling that.

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Yes, it has classic, retro appeal.

And it was made by Umbro, I believe, which is an English company, founded in 1924

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbro

I’m not particularly patriotic but surely international sport is the one occasion where participants nationality and thus national pride of spectators and supporters comes to the forefront?

Besides anything else, this Nike version is just crap graphic design.

Umbro - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbro

KnickerlessParsons · 22/03/2024 10:13

They'd better bloody not touch our beloved draig goch! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

EasternStandard · 22/03/2024 10:11

MorrisZapp · 22/03/2024 10:06

I can't comment on the St George's Cross as I'm Scottish, but if the FA or any sports manufacturer messed with the Saltire there would be a stooshie of epic proportion. We're not flag shaggers, we're proud Scots.

I wonder if people would be more understanding and if any other countries’ flags have been changed

Just heard on the news Germans annoyed at switching from Adidas to Nike for their kit

JSMill · 22/03/2024 10:11

TathingScinsel · 22/03/2024 10:07

The 66 training kit is red, white and blue with the 3 lions. Can’t see how it inspired a pink-blue gradient St George’s cross.

That's actually really nice. They should be selling that.

JSMill · 22/03/2024 10:10

MorrisZapp · 22/03/2024 10:06

I can't comment on the St George's Cross as I'm Scottish, but if the FA or any sports manufacturer messed with the Saltire there would be a stooshie of epic proportion. We're not flag shaggers, we're proud Scots.

I'm Scottish as well (living in England£ and I find the attitudes of some English people towards their own flag quite bizarre. As you say, they would be an uproar in Scotland if they messed with the Saltire. I think the ambivalence of some English people towards the St George's cross is why Nike felt able to mess with it.

TathingScinsel · 22/03/2024 10:09

Unless it’s to do with the way old red dyes ran and made your white’s pink?

Hoppinggreen · 22/03/2024 10:09

JSMill · 22/03/2024 10:05

What's DM, you're the second person who says they dislike DM, what do you mean?
Sorry Op. I was attempting to quote another poster. DM refers to the daily mail. Apparently if you don't think a country's flag should be changed you are a raving mad daily mail reader.

Wrong

Lifeinlists · 22/03/2024 10:09

Is there a flag for every sexual preference now? Why?

TathingScinsel · 22/03/2024 10:07

The 66 training kit is red, white and blue with the 3 lions. Can’t see how it inspired a pink-blue gradient St George’s cross.

Woke change to England flag.
MorrisZapp · 22/03/2024 10:06

I can't comment on the St George's Cross as I'm Scottish, but if the FA or any sports manufacturer messed with the Saltire there would be a stooshie of epic proportion. We're not flag shaggers, we're proud Scots.

JSMill · 22/03/2024 10:05

What's DM, you're the second person who says they dislike DM, what do you mean?
Sorry Op. I was attempting to quote another poster. DM refers to the daily mail. Apparently if you don't think a country's flag should be changed you are a raving mad daily mail reader.

CrispEater2000 · 22/03/2024 10:00

Nike have said it's inspired by the colours of the 1966 training kit. But that was woke as well.

Also, while most nations play in the colours of their country's flag England play in the FA's colours of white and blue. The flag on the kit is neither here nor there.

TathingScinsel · 22/03/2024 09:59

Looks more like the Bisexual flag than the Trans flag.

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CroftonWillow · 22/03/2024 09:59

It's no longer the England flag once the colours are changed. Does seem they're trying to make some sort of point.

EasternStandard · 22/03/2024 09:57

yetanotherusernameAgain · 22/03/2024 09:46

I don't understand how changing a flag is supposed to unite and inspire.

Well it's united a lot of people in their outrage and inspired them to post on social media. So in a way it's working, but probably not in a way Nike intended.

Ha yes

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Careforcarers · 22/03/2024 09:54

Hoppinggreen · 22/03/2024 09:50

Yes, the person with no boobs who was modelling their sports bras 🙄

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Ah, more of their attempts to 'inspire and unite' 🙄did bra sales go up then.

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Careforcarers · 22/03/2024 09:50

Hoppinggreen · 22/03/2024 09:44

If they dont like the shirt then they can not buy it, they will survive. Its not a shirt that makes football enjoyable (although to be fair I am not sure what does)
DM is a very high profile and very annoying Trans person who makes awful videos about "being a girl" and was referenced upthread.
And I never said anyone here salutes the flag, I said lets not get to the stage where we do that like they do in The US.

I'd forgotten his name so didn't get the DM but, I do now.

Well lots of people like football around the world so if they get upset about nike adding pink and blue to the original red to unite and inspire then a few more people talk about it.

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Yes, the person with no boobs who was modelling their sports bras 🙄

BackToLurk · 22/03/2024 09:49

EasternStandard · 22/03/2024 09:42

I’ve no idea why the colours are as they are beyond ‘unite and inspire’ but they’ve got it wrong

Some won’t care at all, but people who care about football probably will hence the backlash

I predict people who buy shirts won't give a fiddly fuck. This happens regularly with national & team shirts. Complaints that they've moved from traditional designs, they're using rival teams' colours, designs don't make sense, there's pink on the men's shirts (that's a favourite) etc, etc. Never seems to make much difference to sales..

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yetanotherusernameAgain · 22/03/2024 09:46

I don't understand how changing a flag is supposed to unite and inspire.

Well it's united a lot of people in their outrage and inspired them to post on social media. So in a way it's working, but probably not in a way Nike intended.

makeanddo · 22/03/2024 09:45

I really don't understand why everyone is saying 'arghhh look what Nine did'. Surely Nike just did what they are told by the people designing and ordering the kit or do Nike require no sign off before kits are produced?

Surely it's the FA that would have signed it off, you know that group that can't seem to decide if they should ban men from playing in women's teams? That bunch of self serving old white men?

Wonder how long before the finger pointing starts ......

Hoppinggreen · 22/03/2024 09:44

If they dont like the shirt then they can not buy it, they will survive. Its not a shirt that makes football enjoyable (although to be fair I am not sure what does)
DM is a very high profile and very annoying Trans person who makes awful videos about "being a girl" and was referenced upthread.
And I never said anyone here salutes the flag, I said lets not get to the stage where we do that like they do in The US.