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Woke change to England flag.

261 replies

Careforcarers · 22/03/2024 09:12

Surely flags are flags but no Nike did a 'playful update' adding trans colours to the England football kit.

Imagine changing the flag of others countries!

What is it with companies like Nike that they have to push trans down everyone's throats.

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PaperWalkAndTalk · 23/03/2024 10:30

Some of these outrages can be media driven (which the media has done by deliberately asking Rishi and Kier for their opinions), but what this sums up is this feeling of corporate wokeness being enforced on everyone.

Whilst it may not have been done on purpose to look like an LGBTTIQQ2SA+ flag, the public have grown tired and are immediately suspicious of things being replaced with stripes. Nike and the FA should've been aware of this.

People are on the lookout for this sort of thing now, and particularly with Nike's history of employing a female impersonator.

Boiledbeetle · 23/03/2024 10:30

oneinamillieon · 23/03/2024 10:25

yawn. how do i get off this thread?

Take two steps to the left.
Then a jump to the right.
Give the door a push
Then disappear into the night.

oneinamillieon · 23/03/2024 10:25

yawn. how do i get off this thread?

oneinamillieon · 23/03/2024 10:24

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/03/2024 09:21

Cazpar · Yesterday 10:50
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Bloody hell this thread.
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Nothing to do with trans yet made out to be trans.
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Association of being trans with paedophilia (by more than one poster).
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And people say there's no transphobia on MN..”

Quite. And all of these flags! Who knew? (I didn’t, I just go about my own business and leave others to go about theirs)

this

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/03/2024 09:21

Cazpar · Yesterday 10:50
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Bloody hell this thread.
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Nothing to do with trans yet made out to be trans.
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Association of being trans with paedophilia (by more than one poster).
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And people say there's no transphobia on MN..”

Quite. And all of these flags! Who knew? (I didn’t, I just go about my own business and leave others to go about theirs)

Combattingthemoaners · 23/03/2024 08:57

Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 07:10

So you will know a lot of chants are from pc . look up you tube UK most offensive football chants.i don't give two for what people sing.

But then surely we want to challenge the “average footie lad?” And change the culture the “average footie lad” creates at football matches? Surely the “average footie lad” not liking a top can only be a positive thing if they are the ones singing the non-PC songs?

Combattingthemoaners · 23/03/2024 08:52

Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 06:38

Have you ever been to a football match,much of the chants are of an enlightened nature to say the least and that's as much explanation as I can be bothered with.

Yes I have, I have been to lots thanks.

Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 07:20

Ats aritey.bye bye.

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Careforcarers · 23/03/2024 07:15

Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 07:12

I actually recognise your user name..you could have a row in an empty room..bye bye.
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I've no idea who you are.

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Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 07:12

I actually recognise your user name..you could have a row in an empty room..bye bye.
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Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 07:10

So you will know a lot of chants are from pc . look up you tube UK most offensive football chants.i don't give two for what people sing.

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Careforcarers · 23/03/2024 07:05

Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 06:38

Have you ever been to a football match,much of the chants are of an enlightened nature to say the least and that's as much explanation as I can be bothered with.

Actually I have been to lots.

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Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 06:39

Not of an enlightened nature

Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 06:38

Have you ever been to a football match,much of the chants are of an enlightened nature to say the least and that's as much explanation as I can be bothered with.

Combattingthemoaners · 23/03/2024 06:35

Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 04:35

Exactly and not £ 125 .

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You are saying exactly to the quote “the average footie lad will not like this.” There is so many issues with that statement:

  1. What is an average “footie lad?”
  2. Is that who we want football to be purely aimed at?
  3. What would an average “footie lad” not like? The flag colour? the fact it’s apparently for the gays or trans? (It isn’t) The fact the away kit is purple? What exactly?
Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 04:35

OnlyLoveCanBreakYourHeart · 22/03/2024 09:30

Your average footie lad is not going to like this!

Exactly and not £ 125 .

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/03/2024 01:29

What's your definition of "woke" @Careforcarers?

ChocolateDeficitDisorder · 22/03/2024 19:10

The English Football Association are the customer, Nike are the designers and manufacturers.

Nike gave them lots of options based on the brief they were given and the FA chose which design and message they wanted.

This came from a former Nike European branding manager on the radio earlier. Nike don't unilaterally put out national team uniforms.

It makes sense when you think about it.

Maddy70 · 22/03/2024 19:06

Peetra · 22/03/2024 18:16

You sound triggered 🤣

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Do I? I havent given it a second thought. It was just in active threads?

Cazpar · 22/03/2024 18:54

PurpleBugz · 22/03/2024 18:03

I don't really care why they changed it. You just can't change another countries flag.

Well I bring good news - no-one is changing the country's flag. England's flag remains St George's Cross as it has been for some time.

How it's coloured in on sports kit makes no difference.

AzureNewt · 22/03/2024 18:51

I see Jason Manford; who has apparently been leading this charge, thinks England should ditch Nike and go back to Umbro….who were the ones that did the 2011 kit with the multi coloured crosses.

ScholesPanda · 22/03/2024 18:47

I guess the proof of the pudding will be in the eating- if people don't like it, they won't buy it. I assume Nike exist to make money, so if they're hit in the pocket they won't be happy.

AzureNewt · 22/03/2024 18:45

TathingScinsel · 22/03/2024 18:24

I posted a link to the 2011 football kits archive.

However, I do admit that even using the official archive link I was unable to identify these tiny blobs as coloured crosses!

They were definitely controversial in 2011 tho, ‘They fucking hated it’

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I have no doubt that some hated it in 2011, but it certainly wasn’t a big news story.

Guess it’s an election year this time, and sometimes these things catch fire on social media and other times they don’t.

2011/12 was probably before the days of anti-woke hand-wringing too.

FictionalCharacter · 22/03/2024 18:30

If it isn’t red on white it isn’t the cross of St George, so it isn’t the England flag.

Jux · 22/03/2024 18:27

If it's not red cross on white background then it's nothing to do with St George or England. It's just a cross; whoopdidoo, nothing to see here.