"Child" series on Radio 4 - birthing people!

I was listening too, and getting very frustrated - but I don’t think it was just one of the guests, I think it could have been three, or definitely two and it ranged between women and birthing people, birthing people, women (obviously!) and “women and girls and other minoritised gendered people”.

I came away thinking that language has been well and truly captured in the NHS.

to be fair she was saying 'women and birthing people' and its not the BBC's fault if people spout this nonsense

It seems to be that everyone's supposed to pretend a miracle has happened and a man has given birth. 🙄

Quite why someone who apparently believes with every fibre of their being that they are meant to be a man should want to get pregnant, carry, give birth to and breast feed a child using their female genitalia and reproductive organs is competely beyond me.

Surely you would see yourself as an infertile man, sadly born incomplete and missing the necessary man parts, but with a few unwelcome and unnessary appendages such as a womb and fallopian tubes that are surplus to requirement?

Surely to deliberately use them for their very intended purpose is to admit and acknowledge that you are, in fact, all woman?

I just heard that in the car and shouted at the radio. It was a midwife, wasn’t it? Of all people. I had to turn the radio off anyway because I couldn’t hear behind that. What a stupid eejit

Ffs!

This was completely jarring to hear. I'd too like to know how many 'birthing people' other than women have actually given birth.
There are a couple of high profile transmen who are known to have had babies but other than that....tumbleweed.
I suspect it is very, very few indeed - absolutely tiny in percentage terms - but for that we are forced to change the terminology for everyone?
Wouldn't it be better to just use the ghastly "birthing people' solely for people who want to be referrred to as such, and in specific circumstances, and not risk erasing the majority?

I'd love to know exactly what the percentage is per year of female 'birthing people' passing through the NHS, versus the number of woman who accept they are women and would rather be referred to as a woman.

I get that 'birthing person' is preferable to the utterly nonsensical 'birthing man' or 'pregnant father' but why can't they reserve the term 'birthing person' purely for those women who identify as trans men, instead of applying it wholesale to all women, the vast majority of whom find it offensive to have the words 'woman' and 'mother' erased from obs/gynae and maternity services?

There won't be any non women.

There may be a TINY, TINY number of women who preferred a fiction to be supported that they were something other than a woman.

Ffs BBC, fuck off with this bullshit or give up the licence fee.