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All new hate crimes legislation - JKR stands firm

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Britinme · 18/03/2024 19:22

As reported in the Daily Telegraph, the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act at Holyrood in 2021 will come into force on April 1 after Police Scotland said it needed time for “training, guidance and communications planning”.
The legislation creates a criminal offence of “stirring up of hatred”, expanding on a similar offence based on racist abuse that has been on the statute book for decades.
Offences are considered “aggravated”, meaning they could lead to stiffer sentences, if they involve prejudice on the basis of age, disability, race, religion, sexual orientation or transgender identity.
Activists have already unsuccessfully attempted to have the author arrested for “misgendering” after she publicly called India Willoughby a male.
However, on Xitter, Rowling said "If you genuinely imagine I’d delete posts calling a man a man, so as not to be prosecuted under this ludicrous law, stand by for the mother of all April Fools’ jokes." and "If you genuinely imagine I’d delete posts calling a man a man, so as not to be prosecuted under this ludicrous law, stand by for the mother of all April Fools’ jokes."
Who's breaking out the Harry Potter Butterbeer popcorn? (https://youreverydayfamily.com/harry-potter-butterbeer-popcorn/)

JK Rowling vows to defy ‘ludicrous’ new hate crime laws

Harry Potter author insists she will continue to argue online that trans women are not women after Scotland tightens curbs

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/18/jk-rowling-keep-calling-a-man-a-man-snp-hate-crime-laws/

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Cailin66 · 19/03/2024 07:14

FrippEnos · 19/03/2024 05:12

Offences are considered “aggravated”, meaning they could lead to stiffer sentences, if they involve prejudice on the basis of age, disability, race, religion, sexual orientation or transgender identity.

I wonder if the article left "sex" out completely or whether its not in the proposed legislation.

It’s not in the legislation.

MysteryDog · 19/03/2024 07:10

FrippEnos · 19/03/2024 05:12

Offences are considered “aggravated”, meaning they could lead to stiffer sentences, if they involve prejudice on the basis of age, disability, race, religion, sexual orientation or transgender identity.

I wonder if the article left "sex" out completely or whether its not in the proposed legislation.

I was just thinking the same! Hopefully someone can come along and illuminate us.
If it has been left out... Wtaf

FrippEnos · 19/03/2024 05:12

Offences are considered “aggravated”, meaning they could lead to stiffer sentences, if they involve prejudice on the basis of age, disability, race, religion, sexual orientation or transgender identity.

I wonder if the article left "sex" out completely or whether its not in the proposed legislation.

SquirrelSoShiny · 19/03/2024 01:48

lonelywater · 19/03/2024 01:18

if I understand it right (according to Roddy Dunlop, KC, and others) the definition and test of the hate part is, get this-"whatever the recipient perceives it to be". Just let that sink in for a bit-no proof, no corroboration, no third party validation. If one were so minded it would only take, say, a few thousand vexatious phone calls a day from the terven to render this completely unworkable. Not that I would ever suggest such a course of action. No siree.

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lonelywater · 19/03/2024 01:18

if I understand it right (according to Roddy Dunlop, KC, and others) the definition and test of the hate part is, get this-"whatever the recipient perceives it to be". Just let that sink in for a bit-no proof, no corroboration, no third party validation. If one were so minded it would only take, say, a few thousand vexatious phone calls a day from the terven to render this completely unworkable. Not that I would ever suggest such a course of action. No siree.

HardyCrow · 19/03/2024 01:09

Tarquina · 19/03/2024 00:51

If they fine us, we must refuse to pay and go to prison instead.

Once in prison we must cause them as much trouble as possible for example we could hunger strike like the suffragettes did, then they have to let you out after a couple of days.

They probably won’t let you out early for hunger striking. Definitely should clog the prisons though - anyone who can. If they’re smart Though they’ll try to avoid this kind of scenario

Tarquina · 19/03/2024 00:51

If they fine us, we must refuse to pay and go to prison instead.

Once in prison we must cause them as much trouble as possible for example we could hunger strike like the suffragettes did, then they have to let you out after a couple of days.

WandaWomblesaurus · 19/03/2024 00:46

This needs some Lumos

Whatsnewpussyhat · 19/03/2024 00:43

As we all predicted, these absurd laws will be used by angry, bitter, vindictive abusive men to attack women who refuse to capitulate to gender ideology.

JKR is fucking fearless.

Britinme · 19/03/2024 00:32

Nobody ever accused her of lacking courage

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Mollyollydolly · 19/03/2024 00:29

I genuinely believe now she mentioned IW knowing exactly what would happen. I think she wants them to charge her and take her to court. It will be the biggest mistake the TRAs ever made and of course Willoughby played straight into her hands. Takes a lot of courage though, she knows there will be 1000s of complaints against her.

Britinme · 18/03/2024 22:39

Accurate Sexing Day sounds good

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Rightsraptor · 18/03/2024 21:45

At least we won't be needing to crowdfund for JKR.

mumda · 18/03/2024 21:24

How busy could courts get before some judge decides that biology rules apply?

fromorbit · 18/03/2024 21:01

As a lot of people are saying they can't arrest us all. So it looks like April 1st will be a chance for everyone to celebrate Accurate Sexing Day.

For anyone fancying doing some accurate sexing in public in defiance of the new anti-women law there is an upcoming event and I imagine there will be plenty of others:

Let Women Speak Edinburgh
Saturday 06 Apr 2024, 13:00 – 15:00
Location to be confirmed.

fascinatingdei · 18/03/2024 20:57

As someone subjected to vile sectarian abuse my whole childhood, I’ll be extremely disappointed if this legislation is used in this way rather than against actual bigots.

SirChenjins · 18/03/2024 20:53

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ChateauMargaux · 18/03/2024 20:48

Bring it on!!! JK.. we are all with you!!