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Police Scotland include sex shop in list of locations where you can report a hate crime

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inkjet · 13/03/2024 14:53

Taken from Twitter -
https://twitter.com/blablafishcakes/status/1767872003015315532

The list of third party reporting centres are here -
https://www.scotland.police.uk/spa-media/a1epy5nr/greater-glasgow.docx

https://www.scotland.police.uk/spa-media/a1epy5nr/greater-glasgow.docx

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FrancescaContini · 14/03/2024 08:14

From the article:

Guidelines mean that even if officers do not believe a crime has been committed, when “the victim perceives it to be a hate crime, the circumstances will be recorded as a hate incident (non-crime incident)”.

(underlining my own!)

So very many questions: Where will objectivity come into this system of reporting if it’s about the victim’s perception? How will anyone in Scotland be able to voice an opinion? What will happen to comedy shows, exhibitions, books? Can I wear a badge or carry a bag expressing my affiliation to a particular cause? Don’t police forces in Scotland need to deal with real issues eg drug abuse being the highest there in many years? Why is the SNP encouraging a culture of grievance and victimhood - is it one huge exercise on a national scale in “Look, there’s a squirrel!” to deflect attention from bigger issues?

WickedSerious · 14/03/2024 08:06

Are there any gin distilleries taking part in this scheme???

Not asking for a friend.

ArabellaScott · 14/03/2024 07:56

SirChenjins · 13/03/2024 21:42

But if I’ve understood correctly you can be reported for misgendering (🙄) - which requires acknowledgement of a shared belief in an ideology from both parties? 🤔

Edited

That's not ideology in Scotland it's gospel truth - queer theory is what the Scotgov base all laws on. Nobody can be a nonbeliever on pain of excommunication and banishment to Anthrax Island.

WickedSerious · 14/03/2024 07:53

IcakethereforeIam · 13/03/2024 19:05

Perhaps you could set up an account. A sort of disloyalty card.

Would aggravated eye rolling be worth as many points as hurty words?

Igneococcus · 14/03/2024 07:44

It does make silent hairdressers even more attractive.

FrancescaContini · 14/03/2024 07:44

SirChenjins · 13/03/2024 21:42

But if I’ve understood correctly you can be reported for misgendering (🙄) - which requires acknowledgement of a shared belief in an ideology from both parties? 🤔

Edited

Yes, excellent point

IcakethereforeIam · 13/03/2024 23:38

Those guys want hairdressers, according to the Times article, to be registered! Imagine you go in to get your roots done, your split ends trimmed and to have a vent to Stacey, who's been doing your hair for years. Before you've finished being blow dried you've either got your entire family, street and work mates arrested or you're being dragged off in cuffs, possibly for culturally appropriating your new do.

PurpleSparkledPixie · 13/03/2024 23:22

A Police Scotland spokesman said that the force had used hate crime third-party reporting centres for several years.

However, the sex shop has been a reporting centre for many years. Ian Diamond and Drew Bigglestone, both 51, opened the store in 2010.

I think this information is very worrying. It's been happening for years?? Why bother with this new law if it's been in existence for YEARS previously??

EDIT - Perhaps Scottish GC women should do an information request to see if they are already on the shit list, and how many times and over what period of time. They might be unpleasantly surprised.

Fenlandia · 13/03/2024 23:15

It's getting harder and harder to distinguish real life from Mole at the Door's parodies

https://twitter.com/moleatthedoor/status/1767978249651364346

Police Scotland include sex shop in list of locations where you can report a hate crime
Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/03/2024 21:44

I wonder what will happen the next time Posey visits Scotland?

I think she's going quite soon for a LWS.

SirChenjins · 13/03/2024 21:42

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2024 21:21

No. Just religion and faith. Not belief.

But if I’ve understood correctly you can be reported for misgendering (🙄) - which requires acknowledgement of a shared belief in an ideology from both parties? 🤔

NumberTheory · 13/03/2024 21:39

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2024 21:21

No. Just religion and faith. Not belief.

Darn

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2024 21:32

https://archive.is/sbDuM

Bit more depth from The Times.

I'm glad the Stasi is being mentioned.

IcakethereforeIam · 13/03/2024 21:25

I wonder what will happen the next time Posey visits Scotland?

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2024 21:21

NumberTheory · 13/03/2024 21:13

I know sex isn’t included in the hate crime legislation, but religion, and therefore belief, is, isn’t it?

If so, does this mean that all the GC women in Scotland can go to Luke and Jack’s and report people who harass them on twitter for their beliefs, and Jack and Luke’s will have to take that report and pass it on to the police?

Because there’s something quite tempting about that, isn’t there?

No. Just religion and faith. Not belief.

NumberTheory · 13/03/2024 21:13

I know sex isn’t included in the hate crime legislation, but religion, and therefore belief, is, isn’t it?

If so, does this mean that all the GC women in Scotland can go to Luke and Jack’s and report people who harass them on twitter for their beliefs, and Jack and Luke’s will have to take that report and pass it on to the police?

Because there’s something quite tempting about that, isn’t there?

EvelynBeatrice · 13/03/2024 20:30

Eh? And how are the reporting places supposed to obtain the name and address of the alleged perpetrator?

Will we see the sex shop staff or customers in the kebab shop performing a citizen's arrest on the person who tutted?!!

Or are they expecting the alleged perpetrator to hang around obligingly until police Scotland swing by.

Of course Scotland has a lot of security cameras - maybe they'll spend hours looking at security footage Confused

NotBadConsidering · 13/03/2024 20:23

Igneococcus · 13/03/2024 18:57

Are the any other crimes that you can report at your hairdressers or mushroomery? This is utterly mad.

Yes, explain this. People are being informed they can report crimes, any crime, presumably? But as long as it’s thought to have been motivated by hate? Burglary? Graffiti? Physical assault? Sexual assault? Why not those crimes if not motivated by hate? Why outsource the “hate” part when it probably needs more specialised assessment?

This is a defence lawyer’s dream. “You told the police story X, but only hours earlier you told Dennis at the sex shop counter story Y. Your story changed after your conversation with Dennis, did it not?”

PronounssheRa · 13/03/2024 19:54

https://twitter.com/mcdonnelljp/status/1767983498864844926

On 1st April, Scotland will face Canada in the finals of the 'Most Mental Country in the Anglosphere' cup, and at this point it's too close to call.

Next season England will be hoping to get back into contention under the widely tipped Keir 'let's kill the old' Starmer.

https://twitter.com/mcdonnelljp/status/1767983498864844926

ANameChangePresents · 13/03/2024 19:53

MyLadyDisdainlsYetLiving · 13/03/2024 18:08

Fucking hell. I mean, I’ve visited the Stasi museum in Berlin and I’ve actually learned from history unlike some others in power.

Oh, they learned. They saw the pertinent history books as an instruction manual rather than a cautionary tale.

peanutbuttertoasty · 13/03/2024 19:35

🤡

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 13/03/2024 19:26

IcakethereforeIam · 13/03/2024 19:05

Perhaps you could set up an account. A sort of disloyalty card.

🤣🤣🤣

JanesLittleGirl · 13/03/2024 19:11

Is this the sort of thing that Donald Dewar had in mind?

SoupDragonsFriend · 13/03/2024 19:07

inkjet · 13/03/2024 18:45

What happens if you consider some of the items in the sex shop to be a hate crime? Will the staff still report it accurately?

Or maybe there’ll be an offer? Free fluffy handcuffs with every hate crime reported.

Their website seems to be 'undergoing scheduled maintenance'. Could the site have crashed having already been inundated with crimes in advance of April Fools' Day? Has there been a run on the fluffy handcuffs offer?

IcakethereforeIam · 13/03/2024 19:05

Perhaps you could set up an account. A sort of disloyalty card.