Police Scotland include sex shop in list of locations where you can report a hate crime

It's an awful piece of legislation @ArabellaScott . I just can't believe it's actually being passed. And you're right, how many people are going to be affected before it finally gets repealed? Or will it ever be repealed?

It went through in 2021, it's taken ages for the Police to huff about putting 'training' in place.

I expect it will eventually be repealed, but how many people will have been arrested, interrogated and possibly tried before that happens?

More piss poor lawmaking from the SNP - this was Humza's bill, and its inanity reveals exactly the level of his political ability imo.

No, although thank you. I now know more than I thought I needed to know about antlion larvae 😊.

It took some digging but it was the squanderbug. No real resemblance to Hitler but covered in swastikas.

Edited to add, your grandpa wow! I remember Danger UXB, extraordinary people.

I'm actually really depressed about this law coming into effect. Can it be blocked? Can it be repealed? Can we as Scottish citizens protest?

I posted a link to the BBC article and the thing about the sex shop being one of the reporting "safe spaces" in my long term friendship WhatsApp group chat, with a horror face and how absolutely mad it is. Nobody replied. I'm disappointed but not surprised. None of them care about politics, don't really vote and haven't paid attention. I'm known as the "political one". These are all intelligent women. It's like the government knows this and just wants to stealth remove all our rights by relying on the apathy of the general population. Ugh.

You’re not thinking of the doodle bugs?the waste ones were piggies.

Mine was based on the army bomb disposal shoulder patches (grandpa was in bomb disposal)

The hate monster reminded me of propaganda they had during the 2nd World War to discourage waste. It looked like a cross between Hitler and an insect. Someone help me out. I can't remember the name.

Sorry for my atrocious attempt at mimicking the subs on the Hate Monster videos: they struck me as anything but “inclusive”. I’ve also been wondering how some (mushroom) farm workers will deal with handling a “hate crime” report given that farm labouring jobs are often done by people who speak very little English (certainly the case in our area of the UK). So many questions…

Ah, thanks Erishkagal. Of course you have all receipts!
Will check out the other thread

Yes, already talked about that on another forum but there's no evidence that person is involved. Agree it's quite the coincidence though.

Wasn't their an abusive anon TRA account who was a mushroom farmer? Can't remember the details now, but doesn't sound unlikely it's the same person

What happens when the mushroom farm replaces its workers with robots? Can hate crimes be reported to robots?

I have just realised what the hate monster reminds me of. When we were in primary two I won a poster competition to design for a school ‘don’t be a litter bug’ campaign.

So there you go. All the sophistication of a 6 year old.

I wonder if they are going to steal my ‘red dog waiting to cross the road at the zebra crossing’ design for road safety (circa 1974). Hmmmm.

Now I call that Hatey. Who should I complain to?

It's unbelievable

Disnae Hate Monster naw understand that mebbe some folk in 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 cannae read this a wi feel excluded fra yaw campaign?

Ah thanks, I thought that was odd.

Race is covered separately.

'Offence of racially aggravated harassment'

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2021/14/part/2

To be fair calling someone a whore is abusive.

But if a violent "customer" tries to rape or strangle you then the police will definitely be right on that in a couple of decades/BBC exposes...
If called a prossie/whore however you can report that immediately at a variety of locations and it WILL be prioritised.

Well exactly. On both your points.

My late dad used to read the paper every day, and he used to mutter that the world is going to rack and ruin wherever the latest scandal broke. We’d roll our eyes and humour him out of it. Ten years later I look at the news and think, you were right dad, just a bit early.

I think it’s all part of this post-logic, post- facts world we now live in. The Age of Reason ended in 2016, we have now entered the Age of Feelings. Somehow we’ve collectively lost the ability to see the grey - eg you can like someone but disagree with something they say on a topic, or acknowledge that someone you dislike has done a good thing. People seeking power are no longer required to be honourable, honest people, let alone clever or knowledgeable. We have lost our trust in the very institutions that used to be essential fabric at the core of our society such as the police and the BBC and the post office. The ability to hold people’s and institutions to account and get customer service is reliant on making a complaint on social media and whipping up a mob. God* Help Us All.

*Other deities are available.

So if I've read that excerpt correctly, a person could be prosecuted and I'm fact go to jail for one incident of saying something that someone (in one of the recognised groups) found insulting?

Insulting?

I understand the thinking behind prohibiting abuse and threats but one off insults? Is that a good use of police time?

Also, race seems to be a glaring omission from that list (or is that covered by 'cultural group')?

Query 4 - hate crime against white young men ✊

You know the quote about what happens to people who don't learn from history, don't you?

I know I've said this before - in fact I have, many times - but how do so many people this bloody stupid get to positions of power?

https://wingsoverscotland.com/everything-about-you/

Wings has submitted an FOI. Some of it is funny, some of it is serious.

or sex workers might get called ‘whores’ and ‘prossies’

Not covered under hate crime law. They would have to have one of the monitored strands.

Not quite new! It used to be a council building and the Police moved into after their previous premises became too old/unsuitable, and it's not a LGetc staff room, it's gender neutral changing facility for LGetc staff.

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