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WTF - #WomenInStroke

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IamAporcupine · 12/03/2024 09:51

I work in the medical genetics field and I have just found in my inbox an invitation for the following webinar:
"Stroke in cis/trans women: current data on clinical trials, hormonal therapies and stroke prevention"
This is part of 'Women In Stroke' for IWD, ffs.

In parallel there are other brief case report presentations on 'the suboptimal treatment and how diagnosis of acute stroke is often missed in women'

I am speechless.

#WomenInStroke - World Stroke Academy (world-stroke-academy.org)

#WomenInStroke - World Stroke Academy

On the occasion of International Women’s Day, we at the World Stroke Academy want to celebrate the achievements and careers of Women in Stroke

https://world-stroke-academy.org/womeninstroke/

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theilltemperedclavecinist · 12/03/2024 10:33

IamAporcupine · 12/03/2024 09:51

I work in the medical genetics field and I have just found in my inbox an invitation for the following webinar:
"Stroke in cis/trans women: current data on clinical trials, hormonal therapies and stroke prevention"
This is part of 'Women In Stroke' for IWD, ffs.

In parallel there are other brief case report presentations on 'the suboptimal treatment and how diagnosis of acute stroke is often missed in women'

I am speechless.

#WomenInStroke - World Stroke Academy (world-stroke-academy.org)

Actually this programme makes sense. They are looking at females (underrepresented in clinical trials), people who take oestrogen (could be both women and transwomen), and social factors affecting the treatment of trans stroke patients. It seems like a good idea to study all these problems, and it's not their fault that the problems exist, because of misogyny/mad ideology/whatever. Their language is clear, also.

But where are the trans men? Doesn't testosterone affect stroke risk?

Cazpar · 12/03/2024 10:29

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 12/03/2024 10:22

Bit this is medical data/research ... surely bunging in data of women with a penis who may have taken some oestrogen is not relevant?

Well the webinar makes it clear that it's covering trans women as well, and the title is "Stroke in cis/trans women: current data on clinical trials, hormonal therapies and stroke prevention" (emphasis my own).

It does seem to me like TW would be covered by hormonal therapies. So although I don't agree with the categorisation, I can see why they thought it was relevant.

The webinar itself is obviously not a study - I can't speak for the data which supports the studies which the webinar will be referencing. I don't know if the underlying studies included TW with women or whether there are separate studies.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 12/03/2024 10:22

Cazpar · 12/03/2024 10:08

It doesn't look like it's at all related to IWD? There's an IWD statement at the top of the page but the webinars - past and future - are all further down the page and appear unrelated.

Although I'm unsure about the inclusion of trans women in the webinar / positioning them as the same as "cis" women, I'm sure there is data published which shows a heightened stroke risk in TW taking female hormones. So I can understand from some angles why it's being covered in the webinar.

Bit this is medical data/research ... surely bunging in data of women with a penis who may have taken some oestrogen is not relevant?

Cazpar · 12/03/2024 10:08

It doesn't look like it's at all related to IWD? There's an IWD statement at the top of the page but the webinars - past and future - are all further down the page and appear unrelated.

Although I'm unsure about the inclusion of trans women in the webinar / positioning them as the same as "cis" women, I'm sure there is data published which shows a heightened stroke risk in TW taking female hormones. So I can understand from some angles why it's being covered in the webinar.

Brefugee · 12/03/2024 10:05

oh god this is why we should be recording Biological Sex (in medicine, in crime, every-bloody-where) and if necessary add Gender Identity (because that helps us in some ways, and not in others)

Because otherwise we get more trans men presenting to ER in labour and dying.

Froodwithatowel · 12/03/2024 10:01

.... so if a man says 'I identify as a woman' - they will present with the female pattern of symptoms and not male ones?

On what research exactly? So very very tired of this penis patting.