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Hard-core porno paid for by taxpayers via SNP quango

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IcakethereforeIam · 10/03/2024 21:48

'dyke identifying' is an offensive new one for me. It stands to reason that such an (ahem) artist would be au fait with gender ideology.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/10/snp-quango-gave-public-money-to-porn-masquerading-as-art/ sorry archive.ph seems to be having a moment.

It's not an insignificant sum of money. The ferrets are reversing. But how can they justify bunging someone so much money without knowing precisely what it would be spent on. And, if I understand correctly, they'd already paid for and seen a taster.

When this masterbate, sorry, masterpiece is...erm...finished. The audience will be told to remove their shoes. I'd hate to think what they're stepping in.

SNP quango gave public money to ‘porn masquerading as art’

Artist Leonie Rae Gasson received £110,000 to create short hardcore sex film described as ‘harmful and abusive’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/10/snp-quango-gave-public-money-to-porn-masquerading-as-art

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AmaryllisNightAndDay · 23/05/2024 18:25

Winnading · 23/05/2024 17:41

I've read most of the links, I've gotta say its putrid, the whole thing is putrid.
And leonie needs some counselling immediately to even think this is right and to find out what in the hell happened in her life/childhood to come up with the concept with zero regard to who would participate and those who would watch.

Nothing necessarily happened to Leonie at all. Some people just have innately poor boundaries and an innate inability to predict the effects on other people. And if everyone else is running round thinking it's just cool and arty to be transgressive then the results can be - well, this.

All fun and games until someone loses an eye.

Winnading · 23/05/2024 17:41

I've read most of the links, I've gotta say its putrid, the whole thing is putrid.
And leonie needs some counselling immediately to even think this is right and to find out what in the hell happened in her life/childhood to come up with the concept with zero regard to who would participate and those who would watch.

ArabellaScott · 22/05/2024 19:58

lcakethereforeIam · 22/05/2024 10:13

Another article in the Times

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/creative-scotland-pressure-funding-hardcore-sex-show-gc8v7vvjr

https://archive.ph/kgyGA daddy will see you past the paywall

Fuck's sake how was this ever considered for funding! Putting aside the lying liars and the sex, the odds of this going badly for one of the performers seems massive. The casting call seems likely to attract people with vulnerabilities, candidates for the Greens, the sexually incontinent and exhibitionists with no idea of boundaries. This would have been a terrible mix. And it just sounds shit.

Yes. It sounds like a show that wants to test boundaries, alright. By deliberately subjecting vulnerable people to abuse for money and seeing what happens.

I suppose this is queer theory in action.

INeedAPensieve · 22/05/2024 19:54

Heads need to roll at Creative Scotland. What liars they are. Jeez.

drspouse · 22/05/2024 10:22

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/03/2024 21:50

Oh God - Telegraph readers are already reeling from learning about bonus holes, the male breastfeeding fetish, the cat killer while cheering on JKR. This might finish some of them off 😂

Have you ever watched The Elderly Rich Husband Helpline (I think it's on Tiktok but it may be FB only)?
He needs to recommend this article to his clients.

lcakethereforeIam · 22/05/2024 10:13

Another article in the Times

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/creative-scotland-pressure-funding-hardcore-sex-show-gc8v7vvjr

https://archive.ph/kgyGA daddy will see you past the paywall

Fuck's sake how was this ever considered for funding! Putting aside the lying liars and the sex, the odds of this going badly for one of the performers seems massive. The casting call seems likely to attract people with vulnerabilities, candidates for the Greens, the sexually incontinent and exhibitionists with no idea of boundaries. This would have been a terrible mix. And it just sounds shit.

Creative Scotland under pressure over funding for hardcore sex show

Newly published documents reveal that Creative Scotland was aware the publicly funded theatrical event was sexually explicit, prompting an urgent meeting with the agency leaders

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/creative-scotland-pressure-funding-hardcore-sex-show-gc8v7vvjr

FrancescaContini · 22/05/2024 08:25

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2024 23:01

'Ms Gasson, who is from London and is based in Glasgow, was employed by the Royal Conservatoire of Scotland until April and has worked with National Theatre of Scotland and the Tron Theatre.
Her previous work includes a project at the Traverse Theatre with Lyceum Youth Theatre involving "teenagers and a child" taking items from audience members' bags and making sex toys with them.'

Crikey, the BBC isn't holding back, for a change.

Dear God

AuContraire · 22/05/2024 07:13

BBC Scotland does recently appear to be doing a slightly better job that we've otherwise come to expect from the wider BBC.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2024 23:01

'Ms Gasson, who is from London and is based in Glasgow, was employed by the Royal Conservatoire of Scotland until April and has worked with National Theatre of Scotland and the Tron Theatre.
Her previous work includes a project at the Traverse Theatre with Lyceum Youth Theatre involving "teenagers and a child" taking items from audience members' bags and making sex toys with them.'

Crikey, the BBC isn't holding back, for a change.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2024 22:59

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqq04v75p9o

'Creative Scotland later said they had not realised the project involved real sex, but Rein's application acknowledged that development would involve "a sex scene with genital contact" involving three members of the cast.
It also stated that, where necessary, testing for sexually-transmitted infections (STIs) would be conducted before rehearsals.'

Woman dancing

Culture secretary demands answers on explicit art show

Angus Robertson says he is "deeply concerned" about documents obtained by BBC Scotland News.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqq04v75p9o

redalex261 · 21/05/2024 18:37

Neurodivergent dramaturgy?? body-themed practictioners?? LMAO.

redalex261 · 21/05/2024 18:33

This is not art but utter bullshit. Funded because the “art” is produced by a “queer” woman.

Also, actors are getting £270 a day - even assuming 12 actors for four days each is less than £12,500 - where’s the rest of the money gone? I bet it will be art/film students conscripted in for peanuts (and CV enhancement) working on production and the rest to the “talented, creative, free thinking” Leonie - I would love to see a breakdown of projected costs.

I have no problem with spending on the arts but there must be accountability and surely an installation unavailable to youth/children due to explicit content is not a good use of public money.

Oh, and also - who wants to enjoy porn in a communal space? Urgh. Vile.

lcakethereforeIam · 21/05/2024 18:10

The BBC reporting on the lying liars

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqq04v75p9o

Also has a timely reminder on one of Gasson's previous works in which teenagers and a child make sex toys from items taken from the audience.

I'll say this for Gasson she seems to have a problem with boundaries but she seems to have been honest about this. Compared to Creative Scotland who's lies only bought them time as foi would and have inevitably brought the truth to light.

Gasson also, within her own moral universe, seems to have given thought to the wellbeing of her cast. Or perhaps consulted a lawyer to make sure her arse was, metaphorically, covered.

Woman dancing

Culture secretary demands answers on explicit art show

Culture Secretary Angus Robertson says he is "deeply concerned" about documents obtained by BBC Scotland News.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqq04v75p9o

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Waitwhat23 · 28/03/2024 19:03

No funding either for a book festival, and associated children's book festival -

www.heraldscotland.com/news/24216735.creative-scotland-reject-aye-write-book-festival-funding-bid/

IcakethereforeIam · 28/03/2024 18:23

Another article gives a little insight into the frankly bizarre decisions by Creative Scotland on who gets grants. Remake of an iconic Scottish movie by a Scottish cast and crew to be filmed in Scotland...no...fuck off...oh well here's a grand. Porno by an English private school alumni...take my (well taxpayer's) money.

https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/creative-scotland-funding-whisky-galore/

Creative Scotland funded sex show but turned down Whisky Galore remake

Questions over why an art installation featuring ‘non-simulated’ sex got Creative Scotland funding yet reboot of Whisky Galore! got nothing.

https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/creative-scotland-funding-whisky-galore

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IcakethereforeIam · 16/03/2024 15:27

I'd heard of Mark Fisher probably through Glinner.

I tried googling 'Love and Machinery', just got lots of links to Wham's Love Machine 😃

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AmaryllisNightAndDay · 16/03/2024 15:22

I suppose that applying for arts grants is like applying for any other grant, succeed once and you're likely to succeed again especially if you attract some publicity (in my line of work they call it "impact") which you can do in the arts by being controversial. Until the tide turns on your controversy and the publicity turns ugly, which it seems to have done.

Cancelledcurio · 16/03/2024 15:18

@IcakethereforeIam he's just some guy I think on twitter, that's how I found out about him. twitter bonnieprincebob
He makes wee films holding the SG to account. He seems quite left wing as he is into Mark Fisher (now deceased who called out Cancel Culture and I think, don't quote me on this, killed himself because he himself was a victim of cancel culture). Bonnie Prince Bob has a short film in which he describes the Cancel Culture and the theories of Mark Fischer and I think he feels this is Scotland basically. I do think Mark Fisher got everything spot on ,except the stuff about Russell Brand ( who is alleged to have sexually abused many women and girls ) I would replace the person Mark Fischer wrote about with Glinner or JK perhaps. Interesting stuff

ArabellaScott · 16/03/2024 15:11

Yep. That is all archived.

CS would have been perfectly happy with all of this had it not got so much attention, I suspect. £84k is a fucking huge amount of money. It's a fairly onerous process to apply for a meagre grant for a few hundred. I'd imagine that a show that's already been through R&D would have a fair bit of detail to it to get that amount.

But eh, maybe if you're one of the chosen ones it's a different process.

IcakethereforeIam · 16/03/2024 14:57

Just in case anyone doesn't wish to give the DM clicks (fair enough) or read such a long article, this extract is interesting

Yet, it is not as if Creative Scotland was unfamiliar with Ms Gasson's oeuvre. Five years ago, the self-styled 'multi-reality director' directed a Scottish youth theatre performance in which a 16-year-old used sex toys live on stage.

The show, which was called Love & Machinery and described as 'a party on a stage' was part of a Youth Theatre Arts Scotland event in Edinburgh.

The blurb for the show, performed by Lyceum Youth Theatre actors, said: 'Under the guidance of some twentysomethings, some teenagers and a child explore what they think about relationships, sex & what it means to have a good time.'
It added: 'Participatory theatre with Stevie Nicks and sex toys.'

It is understood the show encouraged its young cast to 'make sex toys out of the audience's possessions' and to discuss their sexuality in a 'modern on-stage riot'.
One art critic gave the work five stars and said that opening up 'a conversation about sex and its many misconceptions is a bold move for 16-year-olds. Especially in front of their parents'.

Quite what the parents thought of it is not recorded. It is worth noting that the show's description has been altered on Ms Gasson's website to remove any mention of sex toys and children.

It is also worth noting that one of the event's backers was Creative Scotland.

my bold

WTAF!!

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