Labour Losing women

I think that is a very salient point about the benchmark age which can’t be stressed enough, @SoupDragonsFriend . Thanks for pointing it out.

I can't find a reliable medical source that I can trust to quote from - that WPATH situation has made me even more wary about things medical. However the widely cited view that key parts of the human brain connected to assessing risk and making rational decisions do not mature until about the age of 25 would be a very useful benchmark in working out what is sensible at what age, be they standing for parliament or consenting to surgery or drug taking that will permanently alter your body if you are wanting to medically 'transition'.

The incoherency of this does need unpicking.

Can have mutilating and sterilising medical treatment.... but no tattoos. Is not criminally responsible until mid twenties, but should have the vote.

The joining factor is always some politician or activists' political convenience, not anything to do with the young person.

All will be fine ;

Although look at ‘block terfs’ MP and the arrest mners one

I think they are ready to squash stuff tbh

Yeah I think earning your spurs by standing in an unwinnable seat is fairly standard practice. It's the ones who are expected to win that I'll be watching.

I view any people this young and inexperienced as largely unsuitable for politics tbh. If we invoke age as a mitigating factor for those under 25 when it comes to criminal responsibility then perhaps we should consider similar for holding office.

I agree, I was more concerned by them parachuting in someone inexperienced to what should have been a winnable seat in Sheffield in the last election.
Nothing wrong with giving opportunities to young people who are showing promise and I don’t know enough about this person to judge if they are talented and trans or only trans.

They are two years older than the GRA

We’ll see what the legislation has created as gender ideology enters politics even more

Not sure what the moderation is doing these days so easier just to not get deleted for whatever reason

Plus it’s less about the individual than what we’re seeing reflected back due to a socially changing law

Exactly. Its a way of giving younger members election experience without an expectation they will win.

I do wonder how many new Labour candidates have been selected who have openly expressed a desire to put the brakes on some of the more concerning aspects of gender ideology?
This is one of the factors I've been weighing up. I'm guessing that, in order to get selected, any candidates will have had to either toe the constituency line or, at best, keep quiet. If they've been keeping quiet I can't see them suddenly finding their voice in Parliament with a party whip breathing down their neck.

I've heard it more optimistic Labour supporters suggest that GC MPs are quietly gaining the upper hand in the party but, even if they're correct at the moment, I can imagine that balance being overturned by a big new intake.

this. Witney was David Cameron’s old seat. I don’t think it’s ever been Labour. Georgia has as much chance of winning as flying in the air

A cynic might say Labour have chosen someone with virtually no chance of winning to stand in a safe blue seat as a token sop to trans activists.

I’d say very unlikely

The candidate below is more likeky

This is going to be tough for any women who care about sex based rights. The make up for Labour will reflect an easy win, and gender views

Looking at the selection it reinforces the lack of funding or economic difference, this is going to be played out in identity politics first

The Labour we get won’t be the same as last time - it’ll be more aligned with the proposed candidate

He is trans, autistic, only left care three years ago, has apparently been a town counsellor for less than a year, and is twenty-two years old. He doesn't appear to have experience of politics in the wider world.

It's great if a young person wants to get into national politics but putting someone with this level of life experience and, as has been said, this potential level of vulnerability, up for election to represent a constituency of 70,000 voters with the country in the state it's in is really irresponsible. What on earth were Witney Labour Party thinking?

But he is in a system where he is there to represent his constituency not just the trans community, and it’s unlikely he will be willing to listen to the concerns of this elderly woman about women’s rights being eroded. In the article he talks about representing the trans community with no reference to the constituency he has been nominated to represent
But.... women are all different though. We don't all have the same opinions, as we're individuals with our own minds
Just because a candidate might be representing the trans community, doesn't mean that automatically all women don't want to know.
Someone who speaks for you as a woman might not necessarily speak for me.

Georgia is also autistic, another group of young people who are much more likely to identify as Trans. I’m very concerned that he is likely to be pretty vulnerable.

I do wonder how many new Labour candidates have been selected who have openly expressed a desire to put the brakes on some of the more concerning aspects of gender ideology?

I'm sure I can't guess what kind of Venn diagram you are visualising there! 😀

I understand what you are saying, and if we had a different electoral system such as proportional representation it's a fair point. But he is in a system where he is there to represent his constituency not just the trans community, and it’s unlikely he will be willing to listen to the concerns of this elderly woman about women’s rights being eroded. In the article he talks about representing the trans community with no reference to the constituency he has been nominated to represent.

I do wonder how many new Labour candidates have been selected who have openly expressed a desire to put the brakes on some of the more concerning aspects of gender ideology?

My biggest concern is although this seat has historically been a safe Tory seat, with the recent boundary changes, and the current state of polls there was a real potential to oust the Tories at the GE. I personally think that’s now unlikely to be Labour, although maybe the Liberal Democrats now will pick up more disgruntled Labour voters.

I notice from the autobiography in the screenshot, that Georgia ( transwoman) is a ‘care leaver’, therefore one of those whose childhood means they are disproportionately likely to feel they must be transgender perhaps as a way of trying to leave their past difficulties behind.

It is too bad the Labour Party has no intention of helping people like Georgie do anything other than harm themselves with hormones and genital mutilations. Indeed they would actively ban anyone really trying to help Georgia as being guilty of committing the crime of ‘conversion therapy’.

What on earth are they thinking, and how can they think my vote will go to someone so unsuited and inexperienced to represent his constituency. What about their duty of care to candidates?.
See, I've seen this said about Kier Mather too, who is 25 I think?
That he's too young, too inexperienced, what does he know etc ...
I also think there's some truth in what this Witney candidate is saying, as in that there's a broad spectrum of people, individuals, who are all human and everyone should get a chance of feeling like they are represented.

I’ve personally felt until today that I would hold my nose and still vote Labour despite their inability to respond to women’s concerns. I’ve voted for the Party all through my life and genuinely want the next Govt to be Labour and still do.
But seriously they are now taking the piss, I’ve discovered today that this young man has been selected as our candidate in the upcoming general election.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/witney-labour-labour-party-house-of-commons-oxford-b2509509.html

No doubt he is probably a nice person, but how can a 22 year old neurodiverse trans woman with a troubled upbringing not be too personally vulnerable to contest the election in a blue wall constituency in rural Oxfordshire. What on earth are they thinking, and how can they think my vote will go to someone so unsuited and inexperienced to represent his constituency. What about their duty of care to candidates?

Jeez, that is so shitty.

@duc748 I discourage my DC from visiting the GP if they're ill in case they mention gender dysphoria and get referred to an NHS gender clinic.

When we tried to organise an anti-depressants prescription, the NHS "psychiatrist" who assessed my DC criticised the exploratory therapist who believes it's important to address DC's anxiety and depression before affirming their gender identity. This is the NHS we're supposed to be so proud of, that we should be pouring money into. It's completely fucked.

Heart-breaking to read, Lantysee. You, and parents like you, shouldn't have to fighting the NHS; they should be on your side! The Labour Party cannot be unaware of what is happening here. But they are in thrall to this twisted ideology. So fuck 'em.