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Labour Losing women

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ChristinaXYZ · 07/03/2024 20:20

Despite all the recent WPATH revelations and everythign else we now know Angela Eagle has just tweeted that the next Labour government will:

  • Legislate for a trans-inclusive conversion therapy ban
  • Make anti-LGBT+ hate crime an aggravated offence *Modernise Gender Recognition processes
  • Appoint an international LGBT+ envoy

https://twitter.com/angelaeagle/status/1765795128407388651

https://twitter.com/angelaeagle/status/1765795128407388651

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HeartofSaturdayNight · 08/03/2024 08:28

So fed up of randoms telling me how to vote and also assuming we live in a two-party state. We don't. Get a grip. Also, for the Blue-People-Bad, Red-People-Good posters, can you actually tell me what the difference is between the two current iterations of both parties? They are both astoundingly incompetent with one party just slightly better at rowing back on the stripping back of women's rights. You know, 51% of the population.

Peskysquirrel · 08/03/2024 08:20

Floisme · 08/03/2024 07:06

Why the assumption that anyone who doesn't vote Labour must be a Tory voter? Last time I looked, this was not a two-party state.

⬆Puts into words what I was thinking.

Lamely saying "Please don't" is just not enough. They need to give me something to vote FOR. Not just to vote for them because they're 'not the Tories'.

Femaleismysex · 08/03/2024 07:25

Check your independents, just in case they are decent

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 08/03/2024 07:23

Thelnebriati · 07/03/2024 22:52

Labour will also be awful for disabled people, Rachel Reeves isn't pulling her punches. Everyone needs to have a plan in place in case they develop a disability.
https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/tag/rachel-reeves/

But I am guessing the Conservatives’ plans for disabled people aren’t any better?

Floisme · 08/03/2024 07:06

Why the assumption that anyone who doesn't vote Labour must be a Tory voter? Last time I looked, this was not a two-party state.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 08/03/2024 00:50

Screamingabdabz · 07/03/2024 23:35

Then you’ll be selling women’s rights down the river. Well done you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 🙄

I really hope you're not voting Conservative.
I mean, it's up to you if you are course, but you'd be a massive hypocrite saying that to someone else if you were.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 08/03/2024 00:49

As usual, we are told to ignore what Labour actually say and do, and just have blind faith that they will be better than Tories on women's rights.

When someone tells you who they are...

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 08/03/2024 00:48

Runningwildish · 07/03/2024 23:32

I see the woman hating Labour supporters are out tonight.

People supporting Labour are woman haters?
Eh?
Unless you're referring to something different?
Or maybe one of those deluded ones who think Tories are good for women

Screamingabdabz · 07/03/2024 23:35

Balhammom · 07/03/2024 22:04

These proposals sound thoroughly sensible to me. Looking forward to voting Labour.

Then you’ll be selling women’s rights down the river. Well done you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 🙄

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 23:32

Thelnebriati · 07/03/2024 23:17

What do the Labour supporters on the thread have to say about their attitude to disabled people?

I've not been a Labour supporter for some time. I agree their stance on many things is appalling. But we need the Tories out, and on trans rights at least I'm hopeful they will do some positive things.

Particularly disgusted by their basically abandoning the Green New Deal.

Runningwildish · 07/03/2024 23:32

I see the woman hating Labour supporters are out tonight.

Thelnebriati · 07/03/2024 23:17

What do the Labour supporters on the thread have to say about their attitude to disabled people?

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 07/03/2024 23:14

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/03/2024 22:59

I’m voting Labour. Any woman who believes that the Tories are on their side is deluded. They’re desperate and saying what they need to, to whoever will fall for it. Please don’t.

Posted before seeing your comment, well said

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 07/03/2024 23:13

HermioneWeasley · 07/03/2024 20:26

#neverLabour

#AlwaysLabour
If you think Tories are the better option for women, then I honestly don't know what to say to that.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 07/03/2024 23:09

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/03/2024 22:59

I’m voting Labour. Any woman who believes that the Tories are on their side is deluded. They’re desperate and saying what they need to, to whoever will fall for it. Please don’t.

If Labour want me to vote for them, they need to offer me something worth having. They're not, so I won't.

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/03/2024 22:59

I’m voting Labour. Any woman who believes that the Tories are on their side is deluded. They’re desperate and saying what they need to, to whoever will fall for it. Please don’t.

ScrollingLeaves · 07/03/2024 22:58

Thelnebriati · 07/03/2024 22:56

Ratioed means its getting very few likes compared the the number of people who have read it or quoted it.

Thank you.

Thelnebriati · 07/03/2024 22:56

Ratioed means its getting very few likes compared the the number of people who have read it or quoted it.

ScrollingLeaves · 07/03/2024 22:53

ChristinaXYZ · 07/03/2024 21:29

The tweet is getting ratioed.

What does that mean, please?

Thelnebriati · 07/03/2024 22:52

Labour will also be awful for disabled people, Rachel Reeves isn't pulling her punches. Everyone needs to have a plan in place in case they develop a disability.
https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/tag/rachel-reeves/

Disability News Service

Rachel Reeves – Disability News Service

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/tag/rachel-reeves

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 22:13

Balhammom · 07/03/2024 22:04

These proposals sound thoroughly sensible to me. Looking forward to voting Labour.

Me too! At last some actual clarity. Although I hope this is soon backed up by the front bench.

Balhammom · 07/03/2024 22:04

These proposals sound thoroughly sensible to me. Looking forward to voting Labour.

FrancescaContini · 07/03/2024 22:02

“International LGBT+ envoy” - I was embarrassed reading that. Does she know what is happening in Gaza and Ukraine?

pronounsbundlebundle · 07/03/2024 22:01

Thelnebriati · 07/03/2024 21:58

Modernise Gender Recognition processes
They still plan to remove the spousal exist clause. This is the weakest part of their argument. None of them want to talk about how it was the key to making the Gender Recognition Act lawful; so keep talking about it.

Both parties signed the marriage contract. One of them cannot retroactively change the terms, that's not how contracts work.
Its not lawful to trap someone in a marriage that they are unable to leave because their religious beliefs forbid them to divorce.
Its not lawful to trap someone in a marriage because the person they want to divorce no longer exists as a legal entity.

Agreed.

It shows very clearly that Labour is no friend to women. It's mostly women who this will affect and the transwidows threads show quite clearly that late transitioning males are often abusive.

Labour want to trap women in abusive marriages. It's barbaric.

Thelnebriati · 07/03/2024 21:58

Modernise Gender Recognition processes
They still plan to remove the spousal exist clause. This is the weakest part of their argument. None of them want to talk about how it was the key to making the Gender Recognition Act lawful; so keep talking about it.

Both parties signed the marriage contract. One of them cannot retroactively change the terms, that's not how contracts work.
Its not lawful to trap someone in a marriage that they are unable to leave because their religious beliefs forbid them to divorce.
Its not lawful to trap someone in a marriage because the person they want to divorce no longer exists as a legal entity.

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