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ChristinaXYZ · 2024-03-07T20:20:02+00:00

Despite all the recent WPATH revelations and everythign else we now know Angela Eagle has just tweeted that the next Labour government will: * Legislate for a trans-inclusive conversion therapy ban * Make anti-LGBT+ hate crime an aggravated offence *Modernise Gender Recognition processes * Appoint an international LGBT+ envoy [[https://twitter.com/angelaeagle/status/1765795128407388651 https://twitter.com/angelaeagle/status/1765795128407388651]]

ArabellaScott · 08/03/2024 12:11

Labour today promising that they would cut VAWG by 50%.

Amazing. Did they have any info on how they would do this?

WickedSerious · 08/03/2024 12:06

senua · 08/03/2024 12:04

Anyway I got a letter from Labour today promising that they would cut VAWG by 50%.
Again, it's a meaningless 'promise' if they don't properly define W&G.

I'd like them to define 'violence' too.

ArabellaScott · 08/03/2024 12:05

BaronMunchausen · 08/03/2024 11:52

What specific Labour policies are you looking at that will improve education and the NHS?
I haven't seen very much to date that distinguishes Labour from the Tories, other than different names and colours. As I understand it, Labour has explicitly promised to follow Jeremy Hunt’s public spending plans.

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This is what I'm interested in. I hear repeated assertions that Labour will be 'better' often without any detail on what policies the poster is referring to.

I genuinely would like to hear more on Labour's policies that will improve matters on these and other issues.

senua · 08/03/2024 12:04

Anyway I got a letter from Labour today promising that they would cut VAWG by 50%.
Again, it's a meaningless 'promise' if they don't properly define W&G.

SpringLobelia · 08/03/2024 12:03

Peskysquirrel · 08/03/2024 12:01

Interesting @FKAT Did they say how?
50% is a bold statement. But why not 100%? 🤔

Indeed.

I suspect it can only be achieved by changing the defining criteria. I want to make some joke here about some forms of violence identifying differently but can't quite manage it.

EasternStandard · 08/03/2024 12:02

StaunchMomma · 08/03/2024 11:49

Depends on a voter's priorities.

I would honestly rather have the country in a better position than to have an MP in power who says men can't be women, right now. The state of the NHS/education etc is more important for me, currently.

I will be voting Labour.

Which specific policies are you relying on from Labour?

Peskysquirrel · 08/03/2024 12:01

Interesting @FKAT Did they say how?
50% is a bold statement. But why not 100%? 🤔

TinkerTiger · 08/03/2024 11:59

Sureaseggs44 · 08/03/2024 11:41

At least they know what one is .

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The easier to discriminate against them, my dear

FKAT · 08/03/2024 11:59

It's so tedious and predictable that whenever FWR try and have a discussion and analysis of Labour's policies on LGB, women and children, it is always derailed by the whatabouters.

"Thinking about looking in more detail at Labour's policies eh? IS THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE AN EVIL SHILL FOR THE FAR RIGHT TORIES?"

It is so frequent and targeted that I'm getting suspicious that this is strategic.

Anyway I got a letter from Labour today promising that they would cut VAWG by 50%.

Edited to move gif to bottom but I can't do this OR remove gif so the gif makes no sense in context.

OceanicBoundlessness · 08/03/2024 11:56

First and foremost, what I wanted to do was what my body is designed to do, which is breastfeed my baby and keep them close. My needs were mere met, my child's needs were met and there was no need to be stuck at home. We had a month abroad at one point, me and the baby.
Having to shelve all those needs and instincts and get back to the workplace would have been detrimental to both me and the baby.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 08/03/2024 11:54

I am a woman and a feminist. Radical and gender critical feminism has always represented a minority of feminists, because what most women want is choices and opportunities, not to be pigeonholed

Well said

beguilingeyes · 08/03/2024 11:54

StaunchMomma · 08/03/2024 11:49

Depends on a voter's priorities.

I would honestly rather have the country in a better position than to have an MP in power who says men can't be women, right now. The state of the NHS/education etc is more important for me, currently.

I will be voting Labour.

This. And the Tories now are suggesting scrapping National Insurance. Very suspicious of their motives wanting to do that. it certainly won't make them popular with pensioners.

Peskysquirrel · 08/03/2024 11:53

Is there a particular policy that stands out to you @StaunchMomma ? Or anyone saying they will vote Labour.
I honestly mean that as a genuine question. I'm looking for the positives about Labour (and not that they are just "not Tories").
Interested to hear what appeals, especially after the green manifesto debacle.
Childcare seems to be vote winner?

BaronMunchausen · 08/03/2024 11:52

StaunchMomma · 08/03/2024 11:49

Depends on a voter's priorities.

I would honestly rather have the country in a better position than to have an MP in power who says men can't be women, right now. The state of the NHS/education etc is more important for me, currently.

I will be voting Labour.

What specific Labour policies are you looking at that will improve education and the NHS?
I haven't seen very much to date that distinguishes Labour from the Tories, other than different names and colours. As I understand it, Labour has explicitly promised to follow Jeremy Hunt’s public spending plans.

StaunchMomma · 08/03/2024 11:50

Sureaseggs44 · 08/03/2024 11:41

At least they know what one is .

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Oh well, it's alright that they can make our lives shitter then!

StaunchMomma · 08/03/2024 11:49

Depends on a voter's priorities.

I would honestly rather have the country in a better position than to have an MP in power who says men can't be women, right now. The state of the NHS/education etc is more important for me, currently.

I will be voting Labour.

ForCoralFox · 08/03/2024 11:49

NovemberAutumn · 08/03/2024 11:41

Lord. @ForCoralFox you keep missing all the points, I am afraid.

OK, explain to me like I'm a child. What is significant about the fact that women breastfeed? Ignoring the fact that not all those who breastfeed identify as women.

ArabellaScott · 08/03/2024 11:48

I love pigeons.

DialSquare · 08/03/2024 11:44

I can't be arsed to play pigeon chess at the moment. I'll see how I feel later on.

NovemberAutumn · 08/03/2024 11:41

Lord. @ForCoralFox you keep missing all the points, I am afraid.

Sureaseggs44 · 08/03/2024 11:41

TinkerTiger · 08/03/2024 08:38

They won't be losing me, I'll still vote for them. The tories don't care for anyone but themselves, least of all women.

At least they know what one is .

ForCoralFox · 08/03/2024 11:39

DialSquare · 08/03/2024 11:38

I think DrBlackbird nailed it early on in the thread with her comprehension skills comment.

What was the point of bringing up breastfeeding then? It was specifically to justify more parental leave for women.

Peskysquirrel · 08/03/2024 11:38

😂

ForCoralFox · 08/03/2024 11:38

Peskysquirrel · 08/03/2024 11:37

I think you missed the point, hon.

Anyway it's "chestfeeding" nowadays.

I don't think I did, actually.

And bravo for that. Trans men matter too, as do non binary people.

DialSquare · 08/03/2024 11:38

I think DrBlackbird nailed it early on in the thread with her comprehension skills comment.