Page 16 | Hollyoaks - well this is creepy!

Imnobody4 · 2024-03-07T12:25:25+00:00

This is an important conversation to have #Hollyoaks [[https://twitter.com/Flashmaggie/status/1765511265076613611?s=19&t=DMjXSrOUX7zq5tzRgsRGEA https://twitter.com/Flashmaggie/status/1765511265076613611?t=DMjXSrOUX7zq5tzRgsRGEA&s=19]]

BackCats · 07/03/2024 16:22

This is so disturbing.

The right answer when a teenager says “I am so sure” about anything is to let them know that teenagers often feel really convinced they will always have the same strong feelings, thoughts and priorities they do at the time and that it is okay to try things out and experiment without making permanent commitments; remind them that under eighteens are not allowed to have tattoos for a reason - otherwise there’d be an awful lot of adults walking around, embarrassed of their tattoos of their teenage crush or obsessions.

An older man asking a teenaged girl if she’s ‘sure’ about something is so dodgy.

Helleofabore · 07/03/2024 16:21

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:18

It's really not. Trans children are really under threat these days, possibly being prevented from accessing healthcare, social transitioning, maybe not even allowed to use the correct pronouns at school. With the current anti trans moral panic I'm glad that Hollyoaks have the courage to run with this, and hope some trans children are helped by it.

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I think that you should be reading the current studies that show that the current healthcare protocols are not actually improving the lives of children. This also includes 'social transitioning' and use of pronouns.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 16:20

I shouldn't have done so, apologies.

StephanieSuperpowers · 07/03/2024 16:20

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:18

It's really not. Trans children are really under threat these days, possibly being prevented from accessing healthcare, social transitioning, maybe not even allowed to use the correct pronouns at school. With the current anti trans moral panic I'm glad that Hollyoaks have the courage to run with this, and hope some trans children are helped by it.

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If I were making the argument that this was fine, I definitely would pick a different week to complain about children being protected from the ghoulish ministrations of WPATH influenced doctors.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 16:19

I'm not sure anyone should be enabling the merail yet again.

Peskysquirrel · 07/03/2024 16:19

Is this a good time to say there's no such thing a a "trans child" 🤔

Helleofabore · 07/03/2024 16:19

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:01

I actually feel sorry for you all. From browsing this forum you all seem constantly distressed by perfectly normal everyday interactions, are permanently afraid and see everything as sinister. It must be an exhausting way to live.

I think we have quickly established that you have very low boundaries yourself and you cannot recognise situations that are potentially harmful.

When someone has such low boundaries, they should not be lecturing others who have appropriate boundaries and recognise potentially harmful situations.

SinnerBoy · 07/03/2024 16:18

Hmm, most people think it's creepy and horrible, influencing young girls to confide in a man and keep it secret from her parents. That's a "co-ordinated response"?

I think that violates the principle of Occam's Razor

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:18

Windymoore · 07/03/2024 16:14

I'm assuming sarcasm,but it's so hard to be sure these days

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It's really not. Trans children are really under threat these days, possibly being prevented from accessing healthcare, social transitioning, maybe not even allowed to use the correct pronouns at school. With the current anti trans moral panic I'm glad that Hollyoaks have the courage to run with this, and hope some trans children are helped by it.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 07/03/2024 16:17

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 14:58

In no other situation would an adult male encouraging a 12 year old female child to keep secrets, and putting hands on her, be ok. It isn't ever ok.

Just watched the video now, and it doesn't say anything about keeping secrets at all 😕
In fact it says the opposite, that they'll support and to tell her mum

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 16:16

@ArabellaScott

Goodness and I thought it was just us tiny few in this particular corner of the forum who were "transphobes"?

Ramblingnamechanger · 07/03/2024 16:16

Just showed this to my female partner without preamble or context. Immediately she said “ what the hell is this clip about grooming being shown on? “ It is very clear to everyone bar one on this thread that this is what is happening. I would like to hope that someone intervenes and shows that this is wrong on all levels. I doubt that on channel 4 that it will.

Peskysquirrel · 07/03/2024 16:15

Shit, I've misplaced my bingo dibdabber thingie

ArabellaScott · 07/03/2024 16:15

You are saying 'most normal people' are transphobic?

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:14

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 16:13

@ForCoralFox

Yes I do think most normal people would consider this scenario creepy. Why not do a quick vox pop in your local pub? You can post your answers here.

Yes, but that would be motivated solely by transphobia, not by the content of the clip.

Windymoore · 07/03/2024 16:14

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 14:43

She's not grooming him, she's supporting him.

It's really brave for Hollyoaks to do this in the current climate and I hope it has a positive impact on trans children.

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I'm assuming sarcasm,but it's so hard to be sure these days

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:13

Beowulfa · 07/03/2024 16:11

Do you know who expressed concerns about Savile's behaviour? Women who trusted their instinct. Who benefits from women being told not to worry about children?

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It's an insult to Savile's victims to mention him in this context.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 16:13

@ForCoralFox

Yes I do think most normal people would consider this scenario creepy. Why not do a quick vox pop in your local pub? You can post your answers here.

Beowulfa · 07/03/2024 16:11

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:01

I actually feel sorry for you all. From browsing this forum you all seem constantly distressed by perfectly normal everyday interactions, are permanently afraid and see everything as sinister. It must be an exhausting way to live.

Do you know who expressed concerns about Savile's behaviour? Women who trusted their instinct. Who benefits from women being told not to worry about children?

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:10

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 16:08

These people get a kick out of gaslighting that their mad views and poor boundaries are shared by everyone.

Do you honestly think it's a mainstream view that a known adult placing their hands briefly on a child's shoulder is deviant?

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:09

Rainbowshit · 07/03/2024 16:08

Why don't you read all the comments under the clip on Twitter. You're the one out of step with what most people see.

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That's clearly a coordinated response.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 16:08

These people get a kick out of gaslighting that their mad views and poor boundaries are shared by everyone.

Rainbowshit · 07/03/2024 16:08

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 15:57

This is such a twisted take on what is happening in this clip.

Why don't you read all the comments under the clip on Twitter. You're the one out of step with what most people see.

ArabellaScott · 07/03/2024 16:07

Encouraging a distressed child to believe that their body is 'wrong' is abhorrent.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 16:07

Don't waste your sympathy on me, @ForCoralFox I've got plenty enough to spare for you.