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Another athletics one

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Worldgonecrazy · 04/03/2024 09:02

I don’t often watch sport but yesterday caught a few minutes of the indoor athletics. There was one athlete in a women’s event who looked VERY male and won by a significant margin. Anyone else see the same thing?

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elgreco · 04/03/2024 15:53

She is very small, practically no men are 5'3".
I think the previous photos are misleading, she doesn't look remotely male. Even her ears are tiny.

NerrSnerr · 04/03/2024 15:47

She doesn't have DSD. If she'd have turned up to the World indoors with long hair and knicker shorts no one would have questioned.

It'd be hugely unlikely that a biological male or DSD athlete is 5ft 3 (and it's bloody impressive that a female has done so well at the sprint hurdles at that height!)

She has been around for years, is an Olympic finalist and I'm sure she's won a world indoor silver or bronze previously. She's just gradually styled herself less feminine over the years.

RebelliousCow · 04/03/2024 15:41

My husband mentioned this last night. He said the athlete looked male. I've been googling to try and find some pictures - just seen this thread,

JanesLittleGirl · 04/03/2024 15:38

Runningwildish · 04/03/2024 15:18

Is they another Casta semaya ?

How can you even ask that question?

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Runningwildish · 04/03/2024 15:18

Is they another Casta semaya ?

murasaki · 04/03/2024 15:15

crunchermuncher · 04/03/2024 15:05

It's not fair, but that's where this mess has got us - any successful athlete who doesn't look feminine makes people wonder.

It's not right and it's not their fault, it's the fault of the biological men damanding to compete as women. Its a direct result of that phenomenon.

Exactly, and that's what made me query initially, and I don't feel good about that. It is all the fault of entitled men.

crunchermuncher · 04/03/2024 15:05

It's not fair, but that's where this mess has got us - any successful athlete who doesn't look feminine makes people wonder.

It's not right and it's not their fault, it's the fault of the biological men damanding to compete as women. Its a direct result of that phenomenon.

NerrSnerr · 04/03/2024 14:50

I 100% agree that biological males shouldn't compete in women's sport (and that's not even starting on the mess of DSD) but this athlete is not a biological male. She's well known on the circuit and has been around for years. She's just got short hair and a face that isn't traditionally feminine.

I just don't think it's fair to drag women into the argument when it is nothing to do with her. Nobody within the athletics world is questioning her gender and the more vocal athletes like Amelia Campbell (was Strickler) and Mara Yamauchi would be all over it.

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Worldgonecrazy · 04/03/2024 13:38

Here’s three more photos. Easy to see why there are some people asking the same question.

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NerrSnerr · 04/03/2024 12:57

This is the same athlete that the OP is talking about when she was a teenager. She's just bulked out a bit and cut her hair.

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NerrSnerr · 04/03/2024 12:53

RaraRachael · 04/03/2024 11:45

Not sure if it's the same one but there was a competitor who the commentator said wished to be referred to as "they/them"

Nikki Hiltz is non binary but is a biological woman. They were absolutely in the right event.

murasaki · 04/03/2024 12:33

They could indeed. But they don't want to.

RainWithSunnySpells · 04/03/2024 12:32

They could easily solve this issue by bringing back the cheek swab test wherever sport is divided by sex.

murasaki · 04/03/2024 12:21

I think the margin of victory may have led to me being suspicious initially, but with the Olympics this year a lot of top athletes didn't go to the indoors, so the ones that did really stood out.

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Worldgonecrazy · 04/03/2024 11:56

Isn’t it interesting that I didn’t need to name names?

And I agree, this is where we are, questioning everything.

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RaraRachael · 04/03/2024 11:45

Not sure if it's the same one but there was a competitor who the commentator said wished to be referred to as "they/them"

murasaki · 04/03/2024 11:24

She looked clearly female to me and ran a great race.

But this is where we are now. There have been so many cheaters that we question everything, which is sad. I found myself looking carefully before deciding to me she was legitimately there, and then felt bad about doing it.

JanesLittleGirl · 04/03/2024 10:39

Devynne is 5' 3" tall and clearly female. Just look at the photo of her at the top of her wiki page.

Biscofffan · 04/03/2024 09:11

Yes. I googled them but couldn't find out very much. But alarm bells did ring. I wonder what the rules are surrounding this distance?