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Mention of dangerous Terf-led lesbian bar

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QuetzalTerfLus · 03/03/2024 11:38

Article here on a new trans-inclusive “lesbian” bar, with nice dig at the horrid old lesbians who may not want men in their spaces.

I guess this is an opinion / review piece but still quite surprising to see “Terf” being used in mainstream press. And I thought the Standard had undertaken to be balanced in its journalism.

https://www.standard.co.uk/going-out/london-lesbian-bar-la-camionera-tiktok-b1142159.html

How can London have only one lesbian bar?

New venue La Camionera was long overdue, says Isobel Van Dyke

https://www.standard.co.uk/going-out/london-lesbian-bar-la-camionera-tiktok-b1142159.html

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Runor · 17/05/2024 13:16

“If you’re an ally, consider donating”

Or just turn up, it’s just a bar 🤷‍♀️

nauticant · 17/05/2024 13:14

From the same programme showing a highly honed sense of irony:

https://x.com/BBCWomansHour/status/1791423418883277147

ladybirdsanchez · 17/05/2024 13:02

Also, surely Isobel Van Dyke is a drag queen with a name like that?

ladybirdsanchez · 17/05/2024 13:00

La Camionera is absolutely not that. It is a trans and non-binary inclusive space

Right, so it's not a lesbian bar at all - it's a queer bar - or just a bar.

'Keep up the good work!' Anita Rani fawns at the end of the endless interview. 'Come and talk to us again.'

Bleugh! Anita Rani is awful on WH. I've stopped listening. It's SUCH a shame.

duc748 · 17/05/2024 12:57

They are talking gibberish. So, it's just a bar. That anyone can go to. Just like any other bar. With what they obviously thought was a novel branding exercise.

PercyPeg · 17/05/2024 12:57

So is this thing open right now? I thought it was just a temporary pop up bar.

nauticant · 17/05/2024 12:51

For those curious about the complete nonsense broadcast, here's a short clip:

https://x.com/parentheses/status/1791411610818408481

Make sure you put your hands over your eyes, excessive eye-rolling might result.

MarieDeGournay · 17/05/2024 12:47

AnotherAngryAcademic · 17/05/2024 12:34

“Lesbian is an umbrella term for everyone.”

No, it jolly well isn’t.

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Lesbian bars...umbrellas... mmm yes please Grin

Mention of dangerous Terf-led lesbian bar
AnotherAngryAcademic · 17/05/2024 12:34

“Lesbian is an umbrella term for everyone.”

No, it jolly well isn’t.

lechiffre55 · 17/05/2024 10:54

JanesLittleGirl · 03/03/2024 14:59

Here is a photo of the founder, Alex Loveless, and their girlfriend, Clara. The sharper eyed among you may be able to see which one is Alex.

They both look like blokes to me?

nauticant · 17/05/2024 10:52

That's is the most amazing advertising for a bar, 22 minutes of fawning on a national broadcaster.

MsFogi · 17/05/2024 10:51

I clicked on this thread because my first thought was 'I so want to go to a TERF bar'! I'm not a lesbian but I'd so love to be able to go to a female only bar - I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the real lesbian club will occasionally let straight women in as guests or something 😁
The 'inclusive' 'lesbian' bar -which is in fact just a bar no doubt filled with men - can bugger off, I have no interest in an evening there.

nauticant · 17/05/2024 10:46

It's a small crowd over on Twitter but the comments are scathing about WH gaslighting their audience.

AlisonDonut · 17/05/2024 10:42

So it is a 'bar' then. Like all the other bars?

How queer.

WinterTrees · 17/05/2024 10:40

'Keep up the good work!' Anita Rani fawns at the end of the endless interview. 'Come and talk to us again.'

A clear indication of the direction WH will be taking without Emma Barnett. It's a no from me. Plenty of podcasts to fill my listening gap.

nauticant · 17/05/2024 10:37

Also, how long is this lesbian bars segment? It's been on for ages, with guest after guest making clear that lesbian bars are not spaces for women.

Anita Rani is loving this.

WinterTrees · 17/05/2024 10:35

Just came on to see if there was a thread on the 'Woman's' Hour 'lesbian' bar piece. FUCK ME. Lesbian bars that are entirely inclusive are not fucking lesbian bars. How are these people so stupid? Why is Anita Rani so credulous??

Hoppinggreen · 17/05/2024 10:33

I am not a lesbian but I would love to go to a women only bar, as long as it was for people born female only.

nauticant · 17/05/2024 10:29

This bar has just had a massive plug on Woman's Hour. An extended puff piece where I lost count of the number of mentions of "identity", "non-binary", "cis", and all the rest. The woman co-owner even admitted that "lesbian" was a branding exercise because it was a space for people of all diverse genders.

Anita Rani thought it was marvellous.

JanesLittleGirl · 03/03/2024 14:59

Here is a photo of the founder, Alex Loveless, and their girlfriend, Clara. The sharper eyed among you may be able to see which one is Alex.

Mention of dangerous Terf-led lesbian bar
Waffleson · 03/03/2024 14:32

The article would be more convincing if it wasn't written by someone called "Isobel Van Dyke". I assume that's a transwoman making a hilarious joke about being a lesbian?

mumda · 03/03/2024 14:29

IncompleteSenten · 03/03/2024 12:10

The trans movement is hugely homophobic and it is staggering that this isn't widely recognised.

"Trans away the gay. "

It's horrific isn't it.

SwordToFlamethrower · 03/03/2024 13:14

Supportive hetero women are an "infestation"? Are you speaking for all lesbians?

DreamyCritic · 03/03/2024 13:06

They said show support not infest their space.

However I am sure lesbians would much rather their space be infested by hetro women rather than males don't you?

Indicateyourintentions · 03/03/2024 13:05

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Are you speaking for all lesbians?