Restoring Sanity Takes Time - Helen Joyce

Another one just like the other ones. Meh

She pointed out how people who weren't mumsnet posters were exercising coercive control over mumsnet posters via vexatious abuse of reporting.

Now that's debunked maybe we can restore some sanity to this thread.

Thank you! As you can see, the first name suggestion is a colour and fox. It really was that simple!

I'm not interested in whether sex is or isn't binary in nature. I respect people's gender identity, whatever that means to them.

Yes it does.

What did they do to get banned?

Also an homage to a much missed former Mumsnetter who got banned, who knows more about safeguarding than most of us.

You cared enough to google me too! Well now I just feel terrible that I haven't googled you.

I'm the Babylonian Queen of the Underworld.

Get bored? What a peculiar thing to say.
Actually shocked you used that word.

This isn't something people get bored with.

If you support trans rights then you will want them to be based on firm foundations not a pile of shifting sand (or maybe you like shifting sand if you're a coral) A lot of trans activism seems to be based on wishful thinking 'I am a trans woman, I feel weak now my testosterone levels have dropped therefore I must be allowed to compete in women's sport' Sorry, no. Male puberty means you will always have a physical advantage over women. 'It's great to block puberty and then take testosterone that will turn me into a man without any problems.' Sorry no. Puberty blockers and testosterone cause long term health effects. Worst case scenario you could die of liver cancer by the time you're 30. What I'm mystified by is the lack of interest in research into trans peoples' health by the trans community.

On a positive note, I have learned LOADS about asexuality in nature. Went down a few rabbit holes and found it extremely interesting.

None of it pertinent to this debate tho😁

Don't you ever get bored?

No I don't get bored fighting for the rights of women and girls I do, however, get bored by the tedious, MRAs, TRAs and their simpering allies that can't manage a coherent response (or indeed any response) to questions and are too prejudiced and blinkered to allow themselves to see the evidence in front of their eyes.

You cared enough to google me too! Well now I just feel terrible that I haven't googled you.

This whole name thing has been enormously diverting. It really was AI generated, by mumsnet. This would be easy enough for you to verify if so wished. See the type of names it suggests. I'm neither clever, nor invested enough, to bother coming up with a secretly code name.

Aside from that though, this is exceedingly dull. It's just the same few stock phrases being repeated ad nauseum, except with the meanings distorted. Don't you ever get bored?

"The Fox Coral is both male and female and can reproduce sexually and asexually. To reproduce sexually, the corals release eggs and sperm at the same time."

Aha, I had a Google yesterday as well because it's often highly enlightening but couldn't see anything. Good spot

Yes. Ten a penny within your tiny minority.
We've heard it all before. And yet we like to keep the lines of discussion open. Always welcome talking about these issues with EVERYONE.
We'll keep discussing because it's so fucking important.

Of course, saying you have no interest in continuing the debate is an excellent way of assuring your thoughts are taken seriously.

You must really believe in what you think 👍🏻

And there it is again - this insistence that standing up for women's rights and boundaries, refusing to act as props or validators for fetishists, pointing out the immutability of sex and the danger of transing children is somehow "demonising" trans people. I don't think they're demons. I just don't want male bodied people to feel entitled to enter spaces or seize opportunities that I, my daughter and my granddaughters regard as reserved for women as a sex class.

You're just a common or garden men's rights activist. We see a few of you on these boards.

So did you look at the WPath files or the statistics that demonstrate that men who identify as trans women commit sexual offences at the same, if not higher rates, as other men or are you still claiming that statistics produced by the Ministry of Justice are unreliable?

Or are you just flouncing from thread to thread with your men's right's activism hoping we don't notice what you are actually advocating for?

I support trans rights. I've no interest in changing my stance, or giving credence to the demonisation of any group on the basis of their identity.

It literally suggested some names, when I set up an account, and the one I tried was taken. That's what happened. Try it yourself and see. This is bonkers!

I'm well aware of gender critical arguments but am mystified by them.

I'm mystified that some people have such a lack of intelligence that they believe people can change sex.

I'm mystified that some people are so misogynistic they think that women and girls are no more than validation tools, human shields and collateral damage so men can have all they desire and then some.

I'm mystified that some people declare themselves feminist while pushing a male rights agenda.

Mumsnet doesn't 'generate names'.

Sounds like wilful ignorance to me.

I've absolutely no wish to investigate further. I've heard quite enough.

Really? I thought we were a tiny minority. (I don't mean I'm trans. I'm not. But I thought those of us who were advocating for trans people's civil and human rights were a tiny minority foisting our will on a helpless majority.)