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Pro-trans and feminist

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niadainud · 02/03/2024 04:40

How is this possible?

I genuinely don't understand how you can believe that biological sex isn't real and believe that people can identify as whatever they like, but also claim to be a feminist.

You claim to support women, but you don't agree with there being a biological definition of "woman".

Please can someone explain to me how this works!

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Ofcourseshecan · 02/03/2024 06:43

No, I can’t see this either, OP.

If you believe a woman is anyone who says they’re a woman, then “women’s rights” would have to include “male women’s” rights to do what they’re doing now: invading women’s single-sex spaces and services, terrorising women in prison, cheating their way to women’s sports prizes etc.

There would be no way of defending women’s single-sex rights. And feminism is about defending women’s rights.

TomeTome · 02/03/2024 05:11

Because people can hold more than one stance and lots of them do? You might just as well ask how you can be a feminist and be pro life? It’s unusual but possible.

PriOn1 · 02/03/2024 05:10

Even if you claim that the term women and female include some men, you can still claim to be fighting for the group you’ve now designated “women”.

Admittedly many such people usually bang on continually about the fact that some men are women, especially once they’ve pushed their way into power within women’s groups, but there’s nothing stopping them from claiming to be something they aren’t.

In addition, I’m sure there are also some genuine people who think women’s rights are important, but haven’t bothered to do the critical thinking about how allowing some men into women’s spaces and counting some men as women under the law undermines those spaces and laws. Presumably they would say it’s a tiny minority and not that important, or dismiss it in some other way, but I’m sure there are still genuine people out there who don’t see it as incompatible.

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