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Kim O'Brien forfeits women's final at the European Pool Championships in protest against playing a man

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catduckgoose · 01/03/2024 08:55

Lynne Pinches posted a video of Kim refusing to take part in this male entitlement charade: https://twitter.com/PinchesLynne/status/1763217887500685339

It shouldn't have to be this way but well done Kim on taking the tough but principled decision to walk away 👏👏👏

https://twitter.com/PinchesLynne/status/1763217887500685339

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soupycustard · 02/03/2024 11:30

The women's game would improve markedly if there were a greater number of women playing at grass roots. However, women still could not compete with men because however many women start playing pool, they will still, at population level, have smaller, weaker hands, a shorter arm span, and faster breathing and heartbeat.

duc748 · 02/03/2024 00:01

sashagabadon · 01/03/2024 19:41

It’s not just physical differences, it’s social too. Pool Halls and social clubs are much harder to access as a female. It’s a very male dominated sport and harder for girls to just go and play unless they are confident. It’s not an activity girls do with female friends in the way boys can and do.
so there’s a social disadvantage too.

This is all true, and I've said before that I think that yes, of course, men have an advantage, but if girls took to cue sports to anywhere near the extent that boys do, the standard of the women's game would improve markedly. Surely, much of it is about numbers. We've seen this happening with women's football; I'm sure it applies to all sports.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/03/2024 20:01

Another brave woman sacrificing her own sporting career for the benefit of others. Flowers
Such a contrast to the cheating men.

AvacadoFieldsForever · 01/03/2024 19:56

Thank you Kim. And sorry you were put in this position by the organisation and society that should have been protecting you and recognising your needs.

sashagabadon · 01/03/2024 19:41

It’s not just physical differences, it’s social too. Pool Halls and social clubs are much harder to access as a female. It’s a very male dominated sport and harder for girls to just go and play unless they are confident. It’s not an activity girls do with female friends in the way boys can and do.
so there’s a social disadvantage too.

Emotionalsupportviper · 01/03/2024 19:19

UltraLiteLife · 01/03/2024 16:11

My apologies, that was the same competition in 2023 (looking at the background). And I'd been very caught by the language. I wondered why the England women's team were OK or standing mute about having HH as one of them.

No mention of HH's final placing or Kim O'Brien from HH on HH's Twitter timeline for 2024. But, fair play (writing very relatively), people have left comments under this and HH hasn't concealed them (or may not have noticed them as yet as it's the 2024 international match in the same European series).

https://twitter.com/HarrietHaynes90/status/1763134122887688230

Edited

That's a year ago?

He hasn't half let himself go, hasn't he?

Emotionalsupportviper · 01/03/2024 19:15

SinnerBoy · 01/03/2024 17:01

Well done to Kim and to Lynne Pinches, both of whom were forced to make a brave stand that they should never have had to make in the first place. Let's hope it emboldens more women to follow suit and make a mockery of the farce going on.

As an aside, this was further down,

https://twitter.com/WingsScotland/status/1760615625657889095

No you fucking haven't, you tedious over-privileged narcissist ponce.

As a response to Oscar Davies, the Enbee barrister, complaining that he's experience hate crimes.

Funny that . . . he complains about not having legal recognition, because that stops him and others like him from defending themselves in court, and gets an entire newspaper column . . .
but when
we women point out that our legal status is being undermined because there is no longer an accepted definition of "woman" as "adult human female" which will prevent us from defending ourselves in court . . . we are dismissed out of hand!

literalviolence · 01/03/2024 19:08

Awesome Kim. You're a real life hero.

UltraLiteLife · 01/03/2024 17:28

RufustheFactualReindeer · 01/03/2024 16:40

No need to apologise ultra

i just wondered how far his delusions went 😀

It's the constant vacillation between being (GC) Ultra and Lite. That and being classed as a Totalitarian Terf who emphatically doesn't

  • want a system of government that is centralized and dictatorial and requires complete subservience to the state
  • have a system of government supporting her (except for reluctant support from the legal and judiciary branches, if expensively persuaded to consider the matter).
It's a hard knock sort of Schrödinger existence. Or do I mean Brownian motion. Caught between multiple states of quantum flapdoodle.

https://physicsandphysicists.blogspot.com/2010/08/god-of-quantum-flapdoodle.html

SinnerBoy · 01/03/2024 17:01

Well done to Kim and to Lynne Pinches, both of whom were forced to make a brave stand that they should never have had to make in the first place. Let's hope it emboldens more women to follow suit and make a mockery of the farce going on.

As an aside, this was further down,

https://twitter.com/WingsScotland/status/1760615625657889095

No you fucking haven't, you tedious over-privileged narcissist ponce.

As a response to Oscar Davies, the Enbee barrister, complaining that he's experience hate crimes.

https://twitter.com/WingsScotland/status/1760615625657889095

RufustheFactualReindeer · 01/03/2024 16:40

No need to apologise ultra

i just wondered how far his delusions went 😀

Durdledore · 01/03/2024 16:40

Emotionalsupportviper · 01/03/2024 12:41

Better still - if they waited until the signal went and then just stood up straight, and left the man/men to swim alone.

How soon would he notice, I wonder.

Fucking brilliant. Love that.

UltraLiteLife · 01/03/2024 16:11

RufustheFactualReindeer · 01/03/2024 13:09

I dont mean to be funny but that video of the ‘winner’ honestly was in response to the fabulous Kim forfeiting?

really?

My apologies, that was the same competition in 2023 (looking at the background). And I'd been very caught by the language. I wondered why the England women's team were OK or standing mute about having HH as one of them.

No mention of HH's final placing or Kim O'Brien from HH on HH's Twitter timeline for 2024. But, fair play (writing very relatively), people have left comments under this and HH hasn't concealed them (or may not have noticed them as yet as it's the 2024 international match in the same European series).

https://twitter.com/HarrietHaynes90/status/1763134122887688230

Kim O'Brien forfeits women's final at the European Pool Championships in protest against playing a man
WomaninBoots · 01/03/2024 15:03

Also, bloody well done Kim. What a woman! It devastates me that a woman has to give up her opportunities to make a point, but what a boss move. Brave.

Fuck these men. Fuck them.

WomaninBoots · 01/03/2024 15:01

Emotionalsupportviper · 01/03/2024 12:40

Interesting framing from the victor.

https://twitter.com/Riley_Gaines_/status/1763269559132344669

Interesting framing, indeed @UltraLiteLife .

As they say "recollections may vary". 🤔

("Dominate" is a very male word, somehow, isn't it . . . . ?)

Why is that man talking as if they actually played a match?

She fucked you off mate, get a grip.

duc748 · 01/03/2024 14:35

Good stuff, Kim. This is (hopefully!) lining up to be a PR nightmare for the pool authorities, just at a time when they are hoping to expand into the big-time TV market. I watch a fair bit of pool, and from listening to the commentaries, you'd have no idea that HH is male (if you didn't already know); I wonder how long this 'say nothing' pretence can be kept up?

catscatscurrantscurrants · 01/03/2024 14:34

Well done to Kim.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 01/03/2024 13:16

That is one completely delusional interview if so…

IcakethereforeIam · 01/03/2024 13:12

Rufus, I think so. But it's so batshit I'm wondering myself. Perhaps it was from or referring to a different game?

ArabellaScott · 01/03/2024 13:11

Oh, I see what you mean. Maybe he was talking about a different match?

ArabellaScott · 01/03/2024 13:11

The dominating one ramming it home? Yes.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 01/03/2024 13:09

IcakethereforeIam · 01/03/2024 12:48

Wow, anyone listening, who knew what had happened, would think this m.....player is delusional.

I dont mean to be funny but that video of the ‘winner’ honestly was in response to the fabulous Kim forfeiting?

really?

heathspeedwell · 01/03/2024 12:59

What a fantastic, principled stance.

Shame that so few men are keen to stand up for fairness in sport.

BornInSin · 01/03/2024 12:55

Is there a way of getting a message to her from all of us.
What a wonderful woman.

Emotionalsupportviper · 01/03/2024 12:52

ADoggyDogWorld · 01/03/2024 12:46

I noted 'Ram it home' too.

Well spotted!

I think we could probably assemble a "Freudian Male Language Bingo Card" if we put our collective (hive*?) minds to it.

*Almost all of the bees we see are female, and are working like billy-o for the swarm, not for themselves. Remind you of any particular sex (in general)?

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