Are Transwomen male or female? Ask the BBC

I can’t fully see the photos. They are both cut off and won’t open or enlarge.

I’m nonethewiser as to what is being shown.

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No fucking wonder they're in uproar. I'd be livid.

From TwiXter

It is just not consistent.

BBC as quoted above by @DuesToTheDirt says: “We generally use the term and pronoun preferred by the person in question, unless there are editorial reasons not to do so.”

In other words this means We generally use self-ID unless there are editorial reasons to mention sex.

This is clearly the stance they have belatedly come to with Scarlett Blake.

But why then is Justin Webb dragged over the coals for mentioning sex, which their own guidelines state can be appropriate when there are editorial reasons to do so?

If I was a BBC journalist I would be extremely confused here.

Why was Justin Webb's comment on sex not covered by 'editorial reasons' whereas the Scarlett Blake reference to birth sex was? Who decides on this? Where is it written down what an 'editorial reason' to talk about sex is? That is what I would be asking if I worked at the BBC.

Thank you- I can't take all the credit, ChatGPT is pretty good at roughing one out and I tweak to fit what I want!

They are using their editorial guidelines as their defence.

The last set of editorial guidelines were set in 2019 by BBC Chairman David Clementi, I believe. A former Governor of The Bank of England. Figures, because ‘trans’ is all about money. Tony Hall was Director General at the time. Don’t know enough about him but likely another snake in the grass.

WickedSerious · Today 12:43

It's not a 'view,it's a cold,hard fact you fucking dinkles

Dinkles is a new one for me; I shall endeavour to introduce it to real life conversations!

That's a great letter.
Thank you for sharing.

Just went on the complaints page to complain about the Justin Webb issue, and top of their list on that page, showing complaints they have received, is the reporting on Scarlet Blake. This is what they say:

Summary of complaint
We received complaints from people unhappy our reports on the conviction of Scarlet Blake have referred to her as a woman.

Our response
Scarlet Blake was tried as a woman and the pronoun ‘she’ was used throughout.
BBC reporting in this area follows the publicly available BBC News style guide. It says: “We generally use the term and pronoun preferred by the person in question, unless there are editorial reasons not to do so.” In this case, we considered it editorially appropriate to include the fact that Blake is a transgender woman and did so across our output. We accept that should have been included in the report on the News at One on 26 February.

This is what I say... they completely misled a lot of people, and the fact that Blake was transgender (I hate the phrase "transgender woman" as it is almost as misleading as "woman"). Also, "transgender" didn't appear in all their reports, and when it did it was often buried near the bottom of the page.

HE IS A BLOODY MAN.

I used to know a homeless guy who was 100% convinced he was best mates with Cliff Richard.

Good grief. Lord save us from such nonsense.

I’ve done it a few days ago re Scarlet Blake.

I’ll make them take it/me to Ofcom.

Publicly protesting the BBC would be a good start in direct action.

Female and male are biological descriptions so the BBC is failing to use language accurately.

It's not a 'view,it's a cold,hard fact you fucking dinkles.

Open letter here signed by 70 writers and journalists.

https://twitter.com/JournalistJill/status/1763525599723741557/photo/1

I'll attach a picture for those not on X but not sure it'll be readable.

My complaint letter

Letter of Complaint to the BBC
To Whom It May Concern,
I am writing to express my deep dissatisfaction and anger regarding the BBC's recent decision to uphold a complaint against Justin Webb for his comments during a discussion on the International Chess Federation guidelines. This decision not only undermines the very essence of factual reporting but also sets a dangerous precedent for the distortion of impartiality within your broadcasting.
Asserting facts should never be conflated with imparting opinion. The necessity for impartiality lies in the realm of subjective debate, not in the dissemination of verifiable truths. To illustrate, stating that the Earth is not flat but spherical is a reflection of scientific consensus, not a breach of impartiality. Similarly, the discussion of biological realities should not be deemed partial or biased.
The implication of your ruling suggests an alarming shift towards a landscape where factual accuracy is sacrificed at the altar of perceived impartiality. This not only misguides the public but also compromises the integrity of journalism. The case in question, where biological distinctions were made in the context of a sports advantage discussion, should not be misconstrued as bias but recognized as a necessary part of factual discourse.
By upholding this complaint, the BBC inadvertently signals that acknowledging biological sex in any context may violate your impartiality guidelines. This stance is not only scientifically untenable but also a disservice to the public's right to informed and accurate reporting.
I urge you to reconsider this decision and the broader implications it holds for journalistic integrity and the pursuit of truth. Your commitment to impartiality should not entail a disregard for factual accuracy.
Sincerely,
[Your Name]

So in addition to Sturgeon's 'rapist gender' we've now got 'murderer gender'. With the linking characteristic being that both are male. And that both parties trying to find a way to describe these males without saying 'male' are going for total incoherence as their best option in their attempt to find a path between an ideology they're in hock to, angry nutjobs who will attack if they speak the Forbidden Words, and a general public increasingly fed up with all this shit.

It's like Sorry I haven't A Clue, doing both the 'describe something without using the word' game, and a few rounds of Mornington Crescent.

If every single person has not sent a letter of complaint to the BBC you are part of the problem, enabling this by not standing up to be counted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints

take 2 minutes. Get ChatGPT to help you write it. BUT WRITE IT.

The BBC seem pretty confused themselves. They now start the Scarlet Blake report with “A murderer who led a man to his death” not man or woman or transgender woman but let’s just stick with “murderer”
Would love to know how many complaints they received about the reporting

So do God and the Devil and pixies. I am not required to join anyone else’s thinking just as you are not required to think or believe what I think and believe. Did you think forced religion was a good thing?

Yes, a million times. So true. You and Orwell have got it so right.

Gender exists, in some people's minds - even if you don't believe in it.

Yes, Gender is fantasy.

From the OP link:

A listener complained that the comment amounted to Webb giving his personal view on a controversial matter in breach of the BBC’s requirements on impartiality.

There is fuck all controversial about it. It is a simple matter of fact. Facts should not be 'controversial' or disputed. It is not Big Endians against Little Endians

Gender exists, in some people's minds - even if you don't believe in it.