This.

Accurate data on who commits how much of which types of crime are important - for prevention, for detection, for ensuring the correct proportions of different types of prison are built etc

And one of the many arguments for keeping men out of women's single sex spaces is their much higher propensity for violence. If men commit vastly more violent crime and sex crime than women, clearly they pose a high risk. So putting them in a women's prison or allowing them into women's changing rooms and refuges would be a daft idea. If half of these crimes are apparently committed by women, the clarity of that argument is reduced.

Do you really not understand anything about how and why data on various crimes is analysed using various characteristics of victims and perpetrators, sex being one of them, @FatPrincess ?

I'm sure the threshold for debate would be met in record time as half the population are being asked to accept that a biological male that tortures animals and murders people belongs with them as a woman purely because he chooses "woman" rather than "man" on a police check in form.

And yes, reading that back again. @Winter2020 , that's exactly where we are now in this lunacy. Let's hope this is the tipping point

Can that process where if you get so many signatures then something has to be debated in parliament be used?

Maybe - it has to be something that's within the remit of parliament to deal with. Not sure if this is?

Can that process where if you get so many signatures then something has to be debated in parliament be used?

The debate being biologically men's crimes being recorded officially as women's crimes. Might as well throw in being reported as women's crimes for good measure.

I'm sure the threshold for debate would be met in record time as half the population are being asked to accept that a biological male that tortures animals and murders people belongs with them as a woman purely because he chooses "woman" rather than "man" on a police check in form.

It affects the average woman because this is not a crime that was carried out by a woman but by a man. You might not be arsed about that I'm fucking fuming.

It's a lie to say it's been carried out by a woman and quite frankly I'm sick of the lies.

NOT OUR CRIMES

When I first heard bout this crime, I thought it sounded so unusual for a woman to do something so unthinkable to an animal and was not surprised to learn she had been a man - it’s so misleading ( RIP to the poor man who was then murdered)

Funny how identifying as innocent does not mean that they are recorded as being innocent. Or identifying s somebody else entirely does not mean that they are recorded as that other person, and therefore could not possibly be the person who committed the crime.

Again, why is one lie unquestionably acceptable, but other lies are discounted?

Anyone else local want to get together a little protest at the police station? This is such a fucking insult.

How confident are you that the women in the article you read about DV were all 100% female? Are you absolutely 100% positive no males were included?

That’s the problem. Data and news can’t be trusted anymore.

These sort of crimes are so rarely committed by women that adding in even a small number from transwomen totally skews the statistics, and makes it look like women are becoming dramatically more violent. Which is seized upon enthusiastically by MRAs.

Presumably they've got the bastards dna on record though.

You'd think they'd have a way of correcting the record to match wouldn't you. Hopefully at some point sanity will assert itself and they'll be able to put it right across the board.

It's wrong. It's incoherent and it's an example of how completely fucked up all the data is from the police & the MoJ. Civil servants at the MoJ have been pushing this stuff to the detriment of women for years now and we know that they've actively corrupted our national crime data.

How can they decide it's a woman's crime when they have already decided he will go to the male estate? Or should we just be grateful they consider him male enough to go there. Ugh...

The murderer will be a woman in the statistics, but imprisoned a men's prison. Why is a lie acceptable in one but not in the other? Why is the collateral damage irrelevant in one but relevant in the other?

Yes.

I shouldn't read this board before going to bed, here's yet another thing to make me lie awake angry!