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Advice of one transwoman changed rules in single sex social organisation

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Ladiescircler · 28/02/2024 20:31

I'm a member of Ladies Circle (yes the name is a bit stupid but that's not the point) Most of you won't have heard of it, there is a female equivalent to Roundtable. A organisation for Women and round table is for Men.

The basic principle is socialising with woman in you local area and if you want doing some things for charity like Fireworks or Santa Floats.

I joined when I didn't know anyone in the local area and it's been brilliant I've made loads of friends and done things I wouldn't normally plus had fun helping at fireworks.

It's great to socialise with just women and the dynamics would be totally different if it was mixed sex.

A while back there was some talk of allowing all women however they identify in, recently the national council released a Belief statement when it became clear they are allowing self ID.

Here's the statement:
GENDER
Ladies Circle GB&I is open to everyone ages 18-45 who identifies as being, or lives as
female. This includes people who are cisgender, transgender, and those assigned female at
birth who are nonbinary.
…POLITICS
Ladies Circle GB&I is a non-political association.
That said, we do occasionally get involved in campaigning on issues that affect women. In
the past this included prevention of cervical cancer, reduction in VAT on sanitary industry
and the Women’s National Commission.

Each local Circle where asked to discuss the belief statement and feedback our group feedback gave mixed feedback some for some against.

What is interesting is that they have since clarified where the advice came from and it's a roundtable male that transitioned and set up an EDI company so on the advice of one person they are altering a single sex organisation to mixed sex.

They may as well change the name to People Circle 🫣

Anyway it's really pissed me off today so I thought I'd share.

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TwoTeas · 28/02/2024 20:53

Slightly off topic but what happens when you turn 45? Are you drummed out asked to leave or do you graduate to a different society for an older age group?

AlphariusOmegron · 28/02/2024 20:52

Of course we all have our crosses to bare. We can’t fight everything. But…. This is important to you. Do what you can. You’re not judged.

Ladiescircler · 28/02/2024 20:50

@nothingcomestonothing yes one of our group noticed that it's an absolute joke.

Yes we feedback the only way to contact other groups is through a what's app or Facebook which is moderated by the national executive.

@AlphariusOmegron I'm tempted I'm never normally a quitter but I have a very stressful job and I'm also chair for a few trade associations, plus been fighting for SEN support for my child so it's a matter of priorities, and not adding to my stress.

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Pinkfluffypencilcase · 28/02/2024 20:49

I might identify as trans age as I’m over 45. I feel 40.

Agree with pp stay and fight.

SapphosRock · 28/02/2024 20:46

That's infuriating OP.

I suggest you team up with some other women and set up your own single sex group. Brighton Sisters Salon has some great advice on how to do that:

brightonsisters.files.wordpress.com/2024/02/sisters-salon-activist-pack-for-web.pdf

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/02/2024 20:45

What is interesting is that they have since clarified where the advice came from and it's a roundtable male that transitioned and set up an EDI company so on the advice of one person they are altering a single sex organisation to mixed sex.

One person who will benefit therefore from the Roundtable AND the Ladies Circle. I assume no one else gets to do that.

AuContraire · 28/02/2024 20:45

AlphariusOmegron · 28/02/2024 20:44

Don’t quit. Fight.

This.

We need to take our orgs back from the men who infiltrated them all.

AlphariusOmegron · 28/02/2024 20:44

Don’t quit. Fight.

IwantToRetire · 28/02/2024 20:43

Oh and I'll be quitting they clearly only interested in following what they think.

Sorry somehow missed this bit.

In which case can you let them and other Circles know and that it is totally undemocratic, and misogynistic to do this.

And really shocking that you have been pushed out of a support group you clearly value.

AuContraire · 28/02/2024 20:41

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IwantToRetire · 28/02/2024 20:41

Each local Circle where asked to discuss the belief statement and feedback our group feedback gave mixed feedback some for some against.

Has this already happened or could your Circle still do this.

And any way to convey to other Circles your opinion.

But agree with you, on the basis of one person this should not have been imposed on you.

nothingcomestonothing · 28/02/2024 20:40

Ladies Circle GB&I is a non-political association.

Well clearly not, since it has decided to subscribe to the political belief of gender ideology. I'm sorry OP, it's infuriating that one single trans IDing person can shove everyone else's wishes and rights straight out of the window so easily, you see it time and again.

Ladiescircler · 28/02/2024 20:33

And yes I know it's only a social group but much like W.I it's the principle of it now.

Oh and I'll be quitting they clearly only interested in following what they think.

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