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BBC News does not inform readers cat killer and murderer Scarlett Blake is transgender in this article. I intend to complain to ofcom. These are not our crimes.

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Heylo · 26/02/2024 15:13

Has anyone seen this recent article on the transgender (trans woman) Scarlett Blake who was sentenced to 24 years today for murdering a man. Blake also killed a cat. Pls see this recent article from bbc news. BBC news puts nowhere in article that Blake is transgender. Uses pronouns ‘she’ and refers to Blake as a woman.

bbc article here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-68401335

These are not our crimes. I am reporting the omission of the fact Blake is transgender to Ofcom. I wonder if anyone is thinking the same (about reporting to ofcom, here is the link: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/complaints )

Make a complaint

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https://www.ofcom.org.uk/complaints

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BackCats · 28/02/2024 18:27

IcakethereforeIam · 28/02/2024 18:16

Alex Massie in the Times has written a good Comment piece which pulls a few threads together

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/scarlet-blake-case-shows-we-need-a-serious-conversation-about-truth-nfc999xpp

https://archive.ph/JaTK7

Use the archive link to jump the paywall

I don’t know why this article made my head spin. Perhaps it is because such an article should never need to be written. How have these delusions been crowbarred into the foundations and fabric of society? How can our democracy and our norms be so vulnerable to this deliberate corrosion?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2024 18:20

Does anyone remember that some mad TRA adjacent academic wrote an article in the Telegraph about how "female violent crimes were becoming more common" and this included and was illustrated with a picture of an MTF? Called Lisa Hauxwell or something.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 28/02/2024 18:09

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2024 11:30

A victim who, drunk as he was, may not have clocked Blake’s sex.

Blake was also wearing a hooded coat and a Covid mask.

It just all adds to the very dangerous 'cloak and dagger' element of this whole issue.

People with dishonourable intentions 'hiding' in plain sight. As we always said would happen. Largely unquestioned and in the main, enabled by society in the name of Be Kind.

Heylo · 28/02/2024 17:59

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2024 17:52

If you look at the date that came out, Monday, it was the day of the sentencing of Scarlet Blake. Great timing.

They’re baiting women. The guardian do not care anymore.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2024 17:52

If you look at the date that came out, Monday, it was the day of the sentencing of Scarlet Blake. Great timing.

jm9138 · 28/02/2024 14:35

@Gettingmadderallthetime One of the best posts I have read on MN in some time.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2024 14:00

Yes, you write your own self declaration, and get it countersigned by the same type of person as you do for any first passport application.

IcakethereforeIam · 28/02/2024 12:05

So you rock up in a skirt, or with a bit of lippy, or skip the barbers for a few weeks, with a letter from an obliging nonentity, and you're good to go.

It's not like people who would be prepared to lie about one thing would have scruples against lying about anything else.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2024 11:52

The "Cross Dresser" process

Crossdressers
We can only issue a passport if it’s established the customer is using their new identity for all purposes. You, the examiner, must not issue a passport in a name a customer uses for some but not all purposes.

If the customer cannot provide medical evidence, they must make a statement confirming they permanently use the preferred identity. They must also have a countersignatory or digital referee confirm their new identity and send us evidence if they have changed their name (see Names - evidence to change a name)

You must scan the customers signed statement that confirms they use the preferred identity on to the application (see gender recognition: scanning supporting documents)

www.gov.uk/government/publications/gender-recognition/gender-recognition-accessible

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2024 11:48

They're implying that Blake's GRC should be presented to the court.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2024 11:45

Not if you go down the "cross dresser" route, they'll accept a signed declaration countersigned by your bank manager etc in the same way as getting any other passport.

And that's not what they meant anyway, or just the passport in a lady name with an F should suffice, which he probably has.

Chersfrozenface · 28/02/2024 11:42

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2024 11:29

The Telegraph needs to get their facts straight. You do not need "gender recognition documents" to get a wrong sex passport.

I think they're half right.

You do need documents, detailed here https://www.gov.uk/changing-passport-information/gender#:~:text=Other%20name%20changes-,Gender%20change,is%20likely%20to%20be%20permanent

ErrolTheDragon · 28/02/2024 11:41

We've no way of knowing. It might be that the poor victim had bought the 'transwomen are women' lie and misjudged the risk.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2024 11:30

A victim who, drunk as he was, may not have clocked Blake’s sex.

Blake was also wearing a hooded coat and a Covid mask.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2024 11:29

The Telegraph needs to get their facts straight. You do not need "gender recognition documents" to get a wrong sex passport.

PaterPower · 28/02/2024 11:27

”(even if - see Miller - there have been cases where the transID made the victim more willing to go along with the accused)”

I don’t know if this came up at Blake’s trial, but presumably he was presenting as femininely as he could manage when he met his victim. A victim who, drunk as he was, may not have clocked Blake’s sex.

Even when very drunk, most men would be wary of another ‘civvy’ man offering assistance (sadly). Or at least more wary than of someone who appeared to be a woman.

IcakethereforeIam · 28/02/2024 11:23

There are a few threads about Blake, so I wasn't sure where to post this. Anyway

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2024/02/28/gender-injustice/

https://archive.ph/dmMJB

I'll spare the Telegraph's blushes...🤔...no I won't. The Telegraph was a bad as any other news platform and, I notice, they're careful in this Comment piece not to use any pronouns about Blake unless quoting another source. I also don't agree with the conclusion. No paperwork can make a man a woman, even if he has had all the surgeries. Also, the draconian secrecy clause in the GRA makes it impossible to know who has a GRC and dangerous to even speculate.

Gender injustice

Why was Scarlet Blake allowed to present in the court as a woman without any of the legal documents required for gender reassignment?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2024/02/28/gender-injustice

CriticalCondition · 28/02/2024 10:38

Emma Barnett will be a sad loss to WH but I'm glad she will be able to expose this shit show to a much wider audience when she joins the Today programme.

LentilFaculties · 28/02/2024 10:35

catduckgoose · 28/02/2024 09:41

It's a little bit vexing how that article dismisses this as a "row over pronouns" when it's really about journalistic integrity and asking that readers be truthfully informed.

Well they've inadvertently proved us right, that wrong sex pronouns are not just common courtesy. They have the power to stop even really intelligent journalists from being able to clearly understand issues.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 28/02/2024 10:35

Heylo · 26/02/2024 15:13

Has anyone seen this recent article on the transgender (trans woman) Scarlett Blake who was sentenced to 24 years today for murdering a man. Blake also killed a cat. Pls see this recent article from bbc news. BBC news puts nowhere in article that Blake is transgender. Uses pronouns ‘she’ and refers to Blake as a woman.

bbc article here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-68401335

These are not our crimes. I am reporting the omission of the fact Blake is transgender to Ofcom. I wonder if anyone is thinking the same (about reporting to ofcom, here is the link: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/complaints )

ITV This Morning talking about this - calling him a she and (unless I missed it as didn't see the beginning) not mention of transgender?

CriticalCondition · 28/02/2024 10:32

Yvette Cooper waffling on about difference between biological sex and gender. Also said something like 'I believe there was a gender recognition process in this case'. Several direct and indirect references to the GRA.

CriticalCondition · 28/02/2024 10:26

Ooh, Emma Barnett asking Yvette Cooper on WH right now about how this crime will be recorded.

fabio12 · 28/02/2024 10:26

I'm sure that if the powers that be decided to label all female crime as trans crime there would be a fuss.