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BBC News does not inform readers cat killer and murderer Scarlett Blake is transgender in this article. I intend to complain to ofcom. These are not our crimes.

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Heylo · 26/02/2024 15:13

Has anyone seen this recent article on the transgender (trans woman) Scarlett Blake who was sentenced to 24 years today for murdering a man. Blake also killed a cat. Pls see this recent article from bbc news. BBC news puts nowhere in article that Blake is transgender. Uses pronouns ‘she’ and refers to Blake as a woman.

bbc article here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-68401335

These are not our crimes. I am reporting the omission of the fact Blake is transgender to Ofcom. I wonder if anyone is thinking the same (about reporting to ofcom, here is the link: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/complaints )

Make a complaint

Ofcom may be able to help you complain about phone, broadband and postal services, TV, radio and on-demand programmes, interference to wireless devices, or something you have seen on a video-sharing platform.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/complaints

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StiggyZardust · 26/02/2024 18:15

BBC 1 has just persistently referred to him as she. Despite reporting that he's going to a men's prison Ridiculous.

OvaHere · 26/02/2024 18:14

Balhammom · 26/02/2024 18:12

Curious if OP also takes the same approach with ethnic minorities or perhaps the disabled. If they commit crimes, does she also require a disclaimer because they’re not “her” crimes?

I couldn’t care less if someone I’ve never met is the same gender as me or not. Utterly immaterial.

There are many fair arguments and issues around trans, but this is just weird bigotry.

Stupid analogy that doesn't even work in this context.

Balhammom · 26/02/2024 18:12

Curious if OP also takes the same approach with ethnic minorities or perhaps the disabled. If they commit crimes, does she also require a disclaimer because they’re not “her” crimes?

I couldn’t care less if someone I’ve never met is the same gender as me or not. Utterly immaterial.

There are many fair arguments and issues around trans, but this is just weird bigotry.

AmaryllisChorus · 26/02/2024 18:08

Floisme · 26/02/2024 15:37

I think it's a pretty big deal if the BBC is reporting news incorrectly.
Once trust in a news source has been corroded then it's very hard to win it back.

I do too. If facts are so mutable and it's legitimate to report one thing as being another, where does the justification for this practice end? What else can BBC lie about because it suits their narrative, even though it is written in their charter to educate and inform?

KnickerlessParsons · 26/02/2024 18:03

"(SB) led him to a scheduled riverbank where he was hit on the back of the head with a vodka bottle, strangled and then pushed into the River Cherwell"

It's just not a crime a woman would commit.

Imustgoforarun · 26/02/2024 18:02

It’s important that statistics are correct for future generations to trust and study. At the moment women’s stats are being messed around. Women don’t generally commit crimes like this. But if we had one women commit this type of crime and now we have two that’s 100% increase! It’s misleading. Also funding ie grants is directed at orgs who use these stats.

MMAMPWGHAP · 26/02/2024 17:53

Hate the fact he’s being called she. Tried to leave a comment on the Times article but can’t.

But just as bad is that he’s being called the CAT killer when he killed a PERSON.

ArabellaScott · 26/02/2024 17:51

Jackiebrambles · 26/02/2024 17:14

Yes it’s shockingly misleading reporting. I complained last week. I notice in the latest bbc report they haven’t said where Blake will be sent - men’s prison? Or not? Not sure whether that info would be available yet.

MOJ have confirmed men's prison, according to the BBC .

theatremachine · 26/02/2024 17:36

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/cat-killer-sentenced-to-life-for-oxford-as-part-of-sexual-fantasy?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

HE. He. He. He.

These are not the sort of crimes women EVER commit for sexual gratification.

He.

SkiingIsHeaven · 26/02/2024 17:36

My husband just asked me if I had "seen the article about the crazy woman who killed a cat and then a human."

When I told him that the murderer was a man he asked me why I was getting so worked up about it.

Normally he gets why I get annoying when it comes to sports and safe spaces etc. but not this for some reason.

cerisepanther73 · 26/02/2024 17:31

It's extremely important society knows a transgender woman committed this extremely disturbing sick twisted crime

As this kind of thing sets a precedence for other horrific minded future crimes that could be committed by this demographics of our society,

what another poster said on their post that on the Internet people were debating 🤔 why women are becoming more violent

the disturbing torture and killing of domestic pet was the alarm ⏰️🔔 bell red banner ect...

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 26/02/2024 17:29

To make it worse I just read the article and it states blake was previously known as Alice Wang so doubling down on them being a woman. It really does imply this person was born female .

Farmageddon · 26/02/2024 17:28

DuesToTheDirt · 26/02/2024 17:21

A cat then. Oh wait, they didn't use that, did they. Lying bastards.

And such a contrast to the reporting on Brianna Ghey, where no one could be left in any doubt that Brianna was transgender, though I suppose some people could have been unclear about whether Brianna was MtF or FtM.

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Exactly, when the victim is transgender it all very clearly stated. But when a perpetrator is, they seem to try and hide it - like as though it doesn't fit with the 'most vulnerable' narrative.

DuesToTheDirt · 26/02/2024 17:21

RememberTheComplimentsForgetTheInsults · 26/02/2024 17:13

I've complained to BBC before about a similar report and their response was that they go with whatever the person identifies as.

A cat then. Oh wait, they didn't use that, did they. Lying bastards.

And such a contrast to the reporting on Brianna Ghey, where no one could be left in any doubt that Brianna was transgender, though I suppose some people could have been unclear about whether Brianna was MtF or FtM.

Jackiebrambles · 26/02/2024 17:14

Yes it’s shockingly misleading reporting. I complained last week. I notice in the latest bbc report they haven’t said where Blake will be sent - men’s prison? Or not? Not sure whether that info would be available yet.

RememberTheComplimentsForgetTheInsults · 26/02/2024 17:13

I've complained to BBC before about a similar report and their response was that they go with whatever the person identifies as.

bluecoattrain · 26/02/2024 17:13

Yes, I saw that on several news sites and it wasn't until almost the end of the article they mentioned the perpetrator was a transwoman.

catduckgoose · 26/02/2024 17:10

For comparison this is how they used to report on these men, it would be in the headline or the opening paragraph:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/162216.stm

BBC News | UK | Transsexual man jailed in women's prison

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/162216.stm

Farmageddon · 26/02/2024 17:06

Unfortunately, newspapers are taking direction from the IPSO guidance -

https://www.ipso.co.uk/media/2423/guidance-sex-gender-identity.pdf

It's weird because on the one hand they state that reporting should be accurate and not misleading, but then go on to state that preferred gender identity and pronouns etc. should be used.

That is not accurate in my view. Particularly when discussing a convicted killer.

OldCrone · 26/02/2024 16:57

akkakk · 26/02/2024 16:41

The telegraph carries an article on this headlined:

Guardian writer boycotts newspaper for failing to tell readers ‘cat killer’ murderer was transgender

Louise Tickle accuses the newspaper of ‘deceiving its readers’ for using the word ‘woman’ in its headline

well done her...

The Guardian seems to be trying to avoid further criticism by not reporting on the sentencing at all.

Villagetoraiseachild · 26/02/2024 16:57

Gutted for Jose Carreno's parents and family. He was one of triplets and his family gave him a beautiful tribute. They deserve the truth here also.

Dexterrolledoffthesofa · 26/02/2024 16:52

Complaint sent.

ISeeTheLight · 26/02/2024 16:50

I have also complained OP. This does matter.

Cattenberg · 26/02/2024 16:48

ArabellaScott · 26/02/2024 15:31

As for 'it doesnt matter'

Have a wee look at social media and see how people are talking about this crime.

Fury, understandably. And also questions about why women are becoming more violent, it's being used as justification that women are 'as bad as men'.

The truth is that male violence is by order of magnitudes more of a problem for society than female violence.

The stats are stark.

#notourcrimes

I’ve said before that this feels like the ultimate DARVO.

SaffronSpice · 26/02/2024 16:47

ArabellaScott · 26/02/2024 15:30

I've already complained last week to the BBC.

OFcom generally ask that BBC complaints go through the BBC process first, of which there are three levels, before going to Ofcom.

But in this instance it's across so many media platforms and it's so egregious that I think we need to go to parliament. Fuck Ofcom, fuck the BBC. We need an enquiry into this.

The press are lying to us. Bald faced fucking lies.

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