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UK’s first trans and non-binary domestic violence refuge opens

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lechiffre55 · 23/02/2024 19:57

UK’s first trans and non-binary domestic violence refuge opens

https://twitter.com/Cavakaggy/status/1761028246559129613

https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/02/22/domestic-violence-refuge-trans-uk/

Congratulations to the UK's first trans and non binary domestic violence refuge. I hope you get all the support both political and financial possible. This TERF is incredibly supportive that the trans and non binary community has built a space of their own to support their own community. If it has a fundraiser I hope JKR donates with her usual generosity. I welcome this development and give my best wishes for long term success and hope you serve your community with pride and unanimous appreciation for all the hard work. This is important work and everyone contributing deserves praise and recognition.

https://twitter.com/Cavakaggy/status/1761028246559129613

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HeartofSaturdayNight · 23/02/2024 23:14

Good. I wish them well with it and hope this is the way forward.

Now, how about keeping single sex services single sex?

SirChenjins · 23/02/2024 23:11

Great news - I imagine the TRAs will want to dig to fund this centre and others that I’m sure will open due to demand. Hopefully the male transitioners who currently seek to use female only spaces now feel they have a more specialist service that serves their particular needs.

MissingLesbianSpaces · 23/02/2024 22:56

I hope lots of straight cis men use this resource.

Tiddlywinkly · 23/02/2024 22:35

I fully support this and would donate if there was an option.

As people have said, I wonder if it will be used.

Helleofabore · 23/02/2024 22:29

This is good to hear. I hope that there will be more as it is very necessary.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 23/02/2024 22:28

Bloomingdaffs · 23/02/2024 22:22

You wanted this. It's all FWR go on about and it's still wrong?

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I'm not suggesting transwomen SHOULDN'T use refuges built and funded just for them. I'm suggesting they WON'T. But we shall see.

Eminybob · 23/02/2024 22:26

Bloomingdaffs · 23/02/2024 22:22

You wanted this. It's all FWR go on about and it's still wrong?

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It's exactly what we want. It's the perfect solution. But it isn't want TRAs want so will sadly be under-utilised. Its a real shame.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 23/02/2024 22:23

Eminybob · 23/02/2024 22:20

It will be very telling won't it?

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Indeed

Bloomingdaffs · 23/02/2024 22:22

MistyGreenAndBlue · 23/02/2024 22:16

Given that non binary isn't a real thing and I imagine that a woman who has been victimised by a man - however she identified, be it trans or non binary - would probably in actuality prefer to use a woman's shelter rather than risk a shelter that potentially contains men. (This being a situation that will bring reality home quite sharply I should think).

And given that transwomen will certainly continue to insist on being admitted to women's shelters, I wonder who will actually use this facility.

You wanted this. It's all FWR go on about and it's still wrong?

PurpleSparkledPixie · 23/02/2024 22:22

That's great there is now a dedicated space for trans people. Are they going to segregate the transwomen from the transmen though, as surely they have different needs to each other ?

Eminybob · 23/02/2024 22:20

MistyGreenAndBlue · 23/02/2024 22:16

Given that non binary isn't a real thing and I imagine that a woman who has been victimised by a man - however she identified, be it trans or non binary - would probably in actuality prefer to use a woman's shelter rather than risk a shelter that potentially contains men. (This being a situation that will bring reality home quite sharply I should think).

And given that transwomen will certainly continue to insist on being admitted to women's shelters, I wonder who will actually use this facility.

It will be very telling won't it?

MistyGreenAndBlue · 23/02/2024 22:16

Given that non binary isn't a real thing and I imagine that a woman who has been victimised by a man - however she identified, be it trans or non binary - would probably in actuality prefer to use a woman's shelter rather than risk a shelter that potentially contains men. (This being a situation that will bring reality home quite sharply I should think).

And given that transwomen will certainly continue to insist on being admitted to women's shelters, I wonder who will actually use this facility.

Motorina · 23/02/2024 21:53

Anything that increases aware of and support for victims of domestic violence can only be a good thing. I'm sorry it's needed, but I'm glad it's there. Congratulations to everyone who helped get it off the ground.

HagoftheNorth · 23/02/2024 21:43

This is fantastic news - as pp said, sad it’s needed, but great that their clients will find a safe space with the help focussed specifically on their needs

Eminybob · 23/02/2024 21:41

lechiffre55 · 23/02/2024 21:36

Because I see this as a win win. Funding a refuge for trans and non binary is good for a number of reasons.
1 It helps trans and non binary victims of domestic violence.
2 It overall provides more capacity for everyone who is a victim of domestic violence.
3 If it's OK to make a refuge for only trans and non binary people then it's also OK to make a refuge that only caters to females.

All three together make this a win win for everyone. I would love to support this because it supports all three reasons above.

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Ah if only TRAs prescribed to the logic of your number 3.
Sadly this isn't the case and all the trans only shelters in the world won't change that.

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lechiffre55 · 23/02/2024 21:41

Froodwithatowel · 23/02/2024 21:39

A report from the Domestic Abuse Commissioner found that 68 per cent of LGBT+ survivors prefer a by-and-for specialist service, while 91 per cent of trans people agreed

Yes. Great.

And when women say that? That they prefer a by and for specialist service?

Well if it's OK for trans and non binary to have a service that caters to them, then it must be OK for females to have a service that caters to them right?

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Froodwithatowel · 23/02/2024 21:39

A report from the Domestic Abuse Commissioner found that 68 per cent of LGBT+ survivors prefer a by-and-for specialist service, while 91 per cent of trans people agreed

Yes. Great.

And when women say that? That they prefer a by and for specialist service?

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lechiffre55 · 23/02/2024 21:36

nothingcomestonothing · 23/02/2024 21:26

I wish them every success, and all of their clients healing.

Though I don't understand why you'd donate double to this cause than to GC crowdfunds, or why you'd think JKR should put her hand in her pocket? There are some very wealthy TQ+ focussed charities who could financially support this cause, while GC women have to scrape up every £5 when our legal rights are taken away. And JKR isn't everyone's rich aunty. Obviously give whatever support you choose to whatever cause you choose.

Because I see this as a win win. Funding a refuge for trans and non binary is good for a number of reasons.
1 It helps trans and non binary victims of domestic violence.
2 It overall provides more capacity for everyone who is a victim of domestic violence.
3 If it's OK to make a refuge for only trans and non binary people then it's also OK to make a refuge that only caters to females.

All three together make this a win win for everyone. I would love to support this because it supports all three reasons above.

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TinselAngel · 23/02/2024 21:35

Given refusing to "affirm your partners gender identity" is supposedly domestic abuse, one wonders what the criteria for admission will be.

CorvusPurpureus · 23/02/2024 21:32

Good to hear. Wishing them well.

PeridotSparkle · 23/02/2024 21:31

It's the logical conclusion. Why the hell are people moaning about it on Twitter? Complete twats! Where's else are TW / NB supposed to go?

PermanentTemporary · 23/02/2024 21:28

Great news.

There's no sign of a fundraiser, so perhaps it is fully funded already.

nothingcomestonothing · 23/02/2024 21:26

I wish them every success, and all of their clients healing.

Though I don't understand why you'd donate double to this cause than to GC crowdfunds, or why you'd think JKR should put her hand in her pocket? There are some very wealthy TQ+ focussed charities who could financially support this cause, while GC women have to scrape up every £5 when our legal rights are taken away. And JKR isn't everyone's rich aunty. Obviously give whatever support you choose to whatever cause you choose.

Madcats · 23/02/2024 21:21

This sounds like this is fantastic news.

IwantToRetire · 23/02/2024 21:20

Sounds a really positive move and is in line with long established feminist principles that the best place or source of advice is from members of your own community.

I've checked their web site and it seems it is only accepts referrals from England. Hopefully Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales will recognise this need and enable similar services.

https://www.lovingme.uk/

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We Are Loving Me A service which provides one-to-one support and advocacy, for Trans and Non-Binary victims of domestic abuse or sexual violence who are aged 18 and over and live in England.

https://www.lovingme.uk

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