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Spain-woman sentenced to 6 months in prison after making 'transphobic' remarks towards male ex prostitute

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happydappy2 · 21/02/2024 16:48

https://x.com/ReduxxMag/status/1760315313822769281?s=20

She was also fined Eu3850 and disqualified from holding employment in any profession in the fields of teaching or sports for 3 & 1/2 years

https://x.com/ReduxxMag/status/1760315313822769281?s=20

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FlamingoAndJohn · 22/02/2024 13:38

PP82 · 22/02/2024 13:13

40s ceased to be middle aged at least 20 years ago. But if you want to self identify as middle aged, that's up to you.

Christ you are making some shit up. I don’t care if you don’t like it but 40 is middle aged. Early middle age I’ll grant you, but like it or not it’s middle aged.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:35

paints a particular mental image I suppose, which may or may not be accurate.

We can all do this. I'm sure everyone has formed one of you, which may or may not be accurate.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:34

But again, how does a middle aged person behave?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:33

I'm not "insisting", I'm just not deluding myself.

PP82 · 22/02/2024 13:31

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:28

How does one "live like they are middle aged" then?

Oh I don't know. Your insistence on claiming the label for yourself paints a particular mental image I suppose, which may or may not be accurate.

Goldwork · 22/02/2024 13:31

@Goldworkthat was indeed a nasty insult. Fat Old hag with saggy tits would be similarly nasty, but I can’t imagine anyone being sentenced for that.

No, true. You can generally be as rude as you like to or about women sadly.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:30

@Goldwork that was indeed a nasty insult. Fat Old hag with saggy tits would be similarly nasty, but I can’t imagine anyone being sentenced for that.

As I said earlier, the slur used is a very common Spanish slur for gay men, I don't imagine the prisons are full of men who have used it without any trans context.

PP82 · 22/02/2024 13:29

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:25

Again, so literal. Like your entire movement.

From the person that thinks any man calling himself a woman is literally no different to an actual woman.

Not literally no different. Just no different in the ways that actually matter.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:28

How does one "live like they are middle aged" then?

pickledandpuzzled · 22/02/2024 13:28

@Goldwork that was indeed a nasty insult. Fat Old hag with saggy tits would be similarly nasty, but I can’t imagine anyone being sentenced for that.

PP82 · 22/02/2024 13:28

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:23

You're as literal about age as you are about gender

I don't believe in "gender" as anything other than sex stereotypes. I know what age is. It's odd that you think "middle aged" doesn't apply to you. No, in your 40s you are no longer "young". Sad but true.

You can define me as middle aged or old if you wish. I don't know any people in their 40s who think of themselves or live like they are middle aged, and I think it's sad for you that you do. But you do you.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:28

I'm sure the bulk of the younger generation in Spain know full well what a woman is, like they do everywhere else, fashionable identity politics aside.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:25

Again, so literal. Like your entire movement.

From the person that thinks any man calling himself a woman is literally no different to an actual woman.

PP82 · 22/02/2024 13:24

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:21

Don't be disingenuous @PP82

"I'm sure the Spanish will be devastated not to have one more English tourist this summer. English tourists are their favourite, dontcha know?"

That was tongue in cheek. No one is going to give a shiny shit if pp comes here on holiday or not, but I obviously wasn't actually accusing them of being a lager lout.

Again, so literal. Like your entire movement.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:23

You're as literal about age as you are about gender

I don't believe in "gender" as anything other than sex stereotypes. I know what age is. It's odd that you think "middle aged" doesn't apply to you. No, in your 40s you are no longer "young". Sad but true.

PP82 · 22/02/2024 13:21

ScrollingLeaves · 22/02/2024 13:18

As Spain has such a fixed idea about masculinity it may mean there more transvestites and transwomen because of there being less place in n society for more feminine males.

Similarly, even years ago in Italy, I remember seeing many glamorous transvestites out at night.

It would be interesting to know more.

I don't think those fixed ideas have filtered down to the younger generations, where there is a lot of gender non conformity now.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:21

Don't be disingenuous @PP82

"I'm sure the Spanish will be devastated not to have one more English tourist this summer. English tourists are their favourite, dontcha know?"

PP82 · 22/02/2024 13:19

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:15

40s ceased to be middle aged at least 20 years ago.

It's literally middle aged for the average lifespan Grin

Middle aged has never meant the mid point of life. Never.

It is the period preceding old age. When average life expectancy was early 60s, you weren't considered middle aged at 30.

You're as literal about age as you are about gender.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:19

Update.
Both patries are MtF trans.
SPAIN: Trans-Identified Male Sentenced To Six Months In Prison After Making “Transphobic” Comments Towards Another Trans-Identified Male For Not Having Genital Surgery

YY. As @AlisonDonut said earlier, the interesting thing is that the "hate criminal" was more affirmed in their gender identity as a "woman" than the other male, whose maleness was the point of the case, because people originally thought the person being prosecuted was female because there was no mention of them being "trans".

ScrollingLeaves · 22/02/2024 13:18

As Spain has such a fixed idea about masculinity it may mean there more transvestites and transwomen because of there being less place in n society for more feminine males.

Similarly, even years ago in Italy, I remember seeing many glamorous transvestites out at night.

It would be interesting to know more.

PP82 · 22/02/2024 13:15

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:14

It was pretty nasty what you said about the pp who said she wasn't going to go to Spain, and given that you don't have any clue about who she is, unfounded. I merely pointed out that the Spanish probably see you in the same way.

I just said no one in Spain would care about one less British tourist. That's literally all I said. Everything else is your projection.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:15

40s ceased to be middle aged at least 20 years ago.

It's literally middle aged for the average lifespan Grin

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:14

It was pretty nasty what you said about the pp who said she wasn't going to go to Spain, and given that you don't have any clue about who she is, unfounded. I merely pointed out that the Spanish probably see you in the same way.

PP82 · 22/02/2024 13:13

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2024 13:11

You're in your 40s. So am I. We are both middle aged. It's just life. As you say, who cares.

40s ceased to be middle aged at least 20 years ago. But if you want to self identify as middle aged, that's up to you.