Spain-woman sentenced to 6 months in prison after making 'transphobic' remarks towards male ex prostitute

Without Maya Forstater we.may well be in this situation ourselves.

Scottish Mumsnetters await this scenario as soon as the Police work out how to implement the Hate Crime Bill. Which as we've established has no criteria or threshhold at all.

I think this goes beyond simply making statements on social media. It sounds like harassment, which of course should be punished.

I agree, and watch them swear in that they’ll tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Boys will be boys….🤣

Transgender person writes that the other transgender person isn’t ermm..transgender!

From what they said they didn’t know that the person imprisoned was also trans at the time of reporting.

Here are more of her crimes about because of which she must be re-educated:

••••Their evidence included statements she had made in opposition of the Trans Law, which was legislation recently implemented in Spain to make changing an individual’s legal name and gender marker significantly easier. The investigation also found that between February and October of 2020, the woman had posted several statements on Facebook, Instagram, and X in which she “denied transgender people without genital reassignment the gender with which they identify.”……

I didn't know Spain had gone so far, makes more sense of the visitor the other day!

That anyone got a prison sentence for saying that there are only two sexes is madness, whoever they are.

Wow that is quite the plot twist 😂

Reminds me of https://slate.com/technology/2010/05/the-three-christs-of-ypsilanti-what-happens-when-three-men-who-identify-as-jesus-are-forced-to-live-together.html

The article says denying tw who haven't had surgery are women is the incitement. Sounds like a fact to me. I'd argue the tw who has had surgery is also male but can see why if you went the whole way it would piss you right off to see others lauded as brave women who barely even try.

Have you still not managed to explain how the comments were inciting violence?

Which is exactly my point. If transwoman A is expressing an opinion, even forcibly, that TW are male, it is outrageous that the law would punish them, just because transwoman B has a different view.

We don't do this with other minority groups, expressing opinions about their own minority. If a Chinese person says "You're not really Chinese if you were born outside of China" or a gay man says, "You're not really gay if you have ever had sex with a woman", they don't get banged up for racism/homophobia.

that makes no sense. The person saying the “transphobic comments” identifies as trans!

so the fact that the person saying the “transphobic comments” is in fact trans… doesn’t make you just a teeny tiny skeptical and think that there may be more to this than simply someone thrown in prison for a nasty comment?!

On the contrary, it makes it even worse! It's telling trans people that they can't make their own minds up about how sex and gender interact.

Absolutely

No change here. There's no way I'd support a prison sentence for someone, trans or not, making unpleasant comments about someone.

It is striking how the countries with the most repressively misogynistic cultures in the early 20th century (Ireland, Spain) now seem to be the greatest enthusiasts for stripping away women's rights in the early 21st century.

It's still insane that anyone get 6 months in jail for making comments - even offensive ones. I don't care what sex or gender they are.

i suspect this latest update will put a rather different slant on your perspectives on this story!

EDITOR’S NOTE: A previous version of this article incorrectly referred to one of the parties in this case as a “woman.” This article has been amended after new, previously-unavailable information was released clarifying that both parties in the case are in fact trans-identified males.

and the plot thickens

the article the op posted has been updated… today https://reduxx.info/spain-man-sentenced-to-six-months-in-prison-after-making-transphobic-comments-towards-male-ex-prostitute/

turns out the person imprisoned both parties in the case are in fact trans-identified males.

😂

Perhaps you could share the inciting violence part as I haven’t seen it? Instead of the vague comments criticising links people have helpfully shared with you at your request.

‘noone knew I was trans’, vs ‘Last summer, Ferrer organized and led a tour of Barcelona, called a “Trans Whoretour,” highlighting key areas where the sex industry had thrived. The tour was organized with the support of the trans theater company TiritiTrans Trans Trans Trans.’
if it wasn’t tragic this would be pretty funny.

Six months is a very long sentence for speaking words.