Spain-woman sentenced to 6 months in prison after making 'transphobic' remarks towards male ex prostitute

Two brownies and two hazelnut and caramel cakes bought, and home now for coffee.

Still chuckling.

I wish I was sitting in a car park in rural France waiting for the cake lady to open!

I'm just sitting in a car park in rural France waiting for the cake lady to open, chuckling to myself at the utter absurdity of it all.

Oh what a tangled web and all that...

Because no one really believes a "trans woman" is the same as a woman, and everyone thought this was an actual woman being prosecuted.

wontforget clearly hasn't been around long enough to remember that the UK's first attempted "transphobia" prosecution was a woman bringing a case against a transwoman.

I agree, but Alison's post is quite pertinent. The only one who had gender identity affirmed as a "woman" in the media was the one sentenced for hate crime!

It must have really stung for the only person in this story to be called a woman, to be the one that accused the man of being a man, and after taking that man to court, the man who did the taking to court ends up being the one not described as a woman.

Yelp. Probably why they got the story changed after reporting as the report itself would have been outing, and hence anyone who reports on this is in the exact same boat as the man that says he is a woman that the other man who says he is a woman took to court. For saying something about his dick.

How is the sex of the perpetrator relevant to the principle? Are you saying an actual woman would have been treated differently?

The identity of the people involved is irrelevant to the principles.

nah. Given we know such scant detail about the case, given what we do know, the fact that both are men is very relevant!

yep

wontforget clearly hasn't been around long enough to remember that the UK's first attempted "transphobia" prosecution was a woman bringing a case against a transwoman.

And we were firmly on the transwoman's side, not the woman's, for the same reasons.

The identity of the people involved is irrelevant to the principles.

Only difference would be in degree of direct relevance to the feminist forum - procedural unfairness to women is more on topic - but upholding principles universally is important to everyone, which includes women.

Not in the slightest. It's absurd that anyone should go to jail for this.

They are trying to educate first, he’s got to do a course and the prison sentence is suspended.

I don’t agree generally that words should never result in prison by the way. We’ve always had crimes that just rely on words - threatening someone for example or fraud or inciting violence. I can’t find enough detail on this case to see whether I agree with this being a crime.

Well I still think any prison sentence for saying words is too much. No matter how offensive the words were. I thought in 2024 we would be beyond imprisonment for such minor things. I thought we always try to educate first? Ignore as a last resort? Not putting people in prison. It seems overkill.

So it wasn't a woman after all that was imprisoned.
Phew.

So you have 2 men fighting each other, one ends up in jail.
Let them eat other I say..

oh and these comments…. were made 4 years ago. wonder why picked up and run a few obscure outlets 4 years on

exactly

If transwoman A is expressing an opinion, even forcibly, that TW are male

i don’t think you really believe this happened

A lack of dick measuring contest.

Utterly insane 😳

I did think the language used in the offending posts didn't sound like a woman.

So it makes more sense that this is an argument between men about who has the bigger claim to being a woman.

A suspended prison sentence is nothing like a speeding ticket.

Well the new information just makes this while thing seem more bonkers!

So really a fine and a course. Like getting a speeding ticket but more expensive. And watch what they say for 2 yrs or they'll go to prison for 6 months.

I’m guessing the private information revealed was about the lack of genital surgery.

It’s not as if anyone could mistake the sex in this case.

But I note that the many questions about the claims of inciting violence have been carefully swerved. Anyone noting that might conclude that it was made up, but I would love that assumption to be proved wrong. Nobody should be sent to prison for their opinions on this.

Apparently further clarification:

SPAIN-BARCELONA: A woman was sentenced to 6 MONTHS IN PRISON for making "transphobic" social media posts in 2020. The execution of her sentence was then suspended for 2 yrs, provided she doesn't commit another crime, pays €3,850 in "moral damages" & takes a course on "equal treatment & non-discrimination." Links follow.

https://twitter.com/genspect/status/1760407421757903331

My observation is when it comes to events in the worlds of trans people, the reporting seems to be unclear, muddled, and full of holes. I wonder why that would be?

Argument between two men about which of them is the better woman gets out of hand.