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Ashley Dalton, Labour Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities this evening...

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Abeona · 20/02/2024 21:42

This evening Labour held an online meeting for LGBT+ History month. I called round to pick up something from a friend's and he was listening to what was going on — so I stayed to take notes and to listen to what guest speaker Anneliese Dodds had to say.

Steph Richards (TW) of Steph's Place seemed to be dominating proceedings and ranting about Labour Women's Declaration, Sex Matters, Julie Bindel, WPUK etc, who are apparently all part of an evil right-wing plot against trans people financed by the evangelical churches. Steph is very angry about this! For someone who identifies as a woman he seems very angry with women full stop. I've seen it written down before but never heard anyone actually say all the right-wing evangelical tosh without laughing. I hoped someone would disagree or laugh, but no one piped up.

Anneliese Dodds couldn't make the meeting by Ashley Dalton, Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities attended instead and said that when Labour get into power they will:
Ban all conversion therapy
There will be tougher sentences for LGBT+ hate crimes
They want more LGBT+ people in Parliament and driving policy and there's money available to support those who'll stand. She wants activists on all fora. (We all know that when they say LGBT+ they mean T+, but GC lesbians, take note and get in there. Contact Ashley Dalton for more information and about the funds available.)
She suggested that we might want to introduce the use of pronouns in CLP meetings.
She also wants to breaks silos and have all minorities coming together to discover what they have in common. I can just imagine how that will work. Steph will dominate those meetings, too.

This doesn't sound like the Labour party is planning to change its direction any time soon.

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ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 21/02/2024 00:21

They want more LGBT+ people in Parliament

I wonder if they intend to introduce all lgbt+ shortlists? There may be hope for izzard afterall.

pronounsbundlebundle · 20/02/2024 22:31

ArabellaScott · 20/02/2024 22:20

Angry man rants about women, talks shit and is unchallenged.

Plus ca change, eh?

Well yes, in the Labour party. In the Tory party we have Kemi Badenoch - compare and contrast.

So are lesbians 'pretending' then? More erasure.

And when they say they're going to ban conversion therapy, let me guess, they won't be doing anything about rapey men trying to claim they're lesbian and forcing same sex attracted women to - what was it again - 'overcome their genital preference' or some such Talibanesque rapey shit?

ArabellaScott · 20/02/2024 22:20

Angry man rants about women, talks shit and is unchallenged.

Plus ca change, eh?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/02/2024 22:07

The rise of the new Victorians. Women know your place - it's men in charge now and you will be silent and not speak without permission.
And labour - who will soon be knocking on your door demanding your vote - have given me a platform to abuse you.

Not sure this is quite the stunning electoral strategy they think it will be 😂

Abeona · 20/02/2024 22:01

SilverCatStripes, I see this more and more as a game. So if you or anyone else want to play with Steph, pay your sub, self ID as bisexual or Queer or NB and approach your local Labour constituency LGBT+ officer and say you're there to answer Ashley Dalton's call for activists. Get in there and disrupt.

Steph kept talking about right-wing feminists posing as LGBT+ in order to undermine the trans community. There was no sign of that tonight so I presume that's just more guff. But he basically told GC women what they need to do, didn't he?

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/02/2024 22:00

Steph Richards (TW) of Steph's Place seemed to be dominating proceedings and ranting about Labour Women's Declaration, Sex Matters, Julie Bindel, WPUK etc, who are apparently all part of an evil right-wing plot against trans people financed by the evangelical churches.

TRAs love this particular piece of tinfoil hattery.

Runskiyoga · 20/02/2024 21:53

Fuck them

SilverCatStripes · 20/02/2024 21:51

Fuck the Labour Party.

Signed a former Labour Party member who grew up in a very working class household in a working class Northern town.

I would vote Tory before I vote Labour at the moment.