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Ashley Dalton, Labour Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities this evening...

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Abeona · 20/02/2024 21:42

This evening Labour held an online meeting for LGBT+ History month. I called round to pick up something from a friend's and he was listening to what was going on — so I stayed to take notes and to listen to what guest speaker Anneliese Dodds had to say.

Steph Richards (TW) of Steph's Place seemed to be dominating proceedings and ranting about Labour Women's Declaration, Sex Matters, Julie Bindel, WPUK etc, who are apparently all part of an evil right-wing plot against trans people financed by the evangelical churches. Steph is very angry about this! For someone who identifies as a woman he seems very angry with women full stop. I've seen it written down before but never heard anyone actually say all the right-wing evangelical tosh without laughing. I hoped someone would disagree or laugh, but no one piped up.

Anneliese Dodds couldn't make the meeting by Ashley Dalton, Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities attended instead and said that when Labour get into power they will:
Ban all conversion therapy
There will be tougher sentences for LGBT+ hate crimes
They want more LGBT+ people in Parliament and driving policy and there's money available to support those who'll stand. She wants activists on all fora. (We all know that when they say LGBT+ they mean T+, but GC lesbians, take note and get in there. Contact Ashley Dalton for more information and about the funds available.)
She suggested that we might want to introduce the use of pronouns in CLP meetings.
She also wants to breaks silos and have all minorities coming together to discover what they have in common. I can just imagine how that will work. Steph will dominate those meetings, too.

This doesn't sound like the Labour party is planning to change its direction any time soon.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 22/02/2024 07:55

GCAcademic · 22/02/2024 06:14

Steph kept talking about right-wing feminists posing as LGBT+ in order to undermine the trans community.

Nice bit of DARVO there from a man posing as a woman and seeking to undermine the rights of women.

Was it Steph who organised that protest outside the FILIA conference? One of many where they displayed posters issuing threats of sexual violence against women. That Steph?

Amazing how people can pull stunts like that and then get platformed by Labour.

HermioneWeasley · 22/02/2024 06:30

#NeverLabour

GCAcademic · 22/02/2024 06:14

Steph kept talking about right-wing feminists posing as LGBT+ in order to undermine the trans community.

Nice bit of DARVO there from a man posing as a woman and seeking to undermine the rights of women.

HagoftheNorth · 22/02/2024 05:58

I have posted more than once that, while I don’t like much of what the Tories have done with their time in office, they have managed to dodge the worst of imposing TRA demands on our society. I look at Canada and Australia (and apparently Spain) as examples of how things could be. It looks very much like this will be our near-future under a Labour government.

Wonder where the money’s coming from to support the new lgb T candidates?

viques · 21/02/2024 22:42

I live in a Labour controlled council.

They are celebrating LGBT with a month long series of events, workshops, posters, life stories , exhibitions etc

They are celebrating International Womens day with a one day celebration of women which takes place from 19.00 to 21.00. Not even a day. Two measly hours.

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Abeona · 21/02/2024 21:46

I talked earlier this evening to a couple of women, including one in Labour Women's Declaration and it's really clear that Stonewall is up to its oxters in all this. One of the women in the conversation had been to Cardiff before Christmas to participate in an event hosted by Elect Her and the Welsh Senedd and had seen how pro-trans and anti-GC the event was, with a speaker from Stonewall Cymru telling everyone how they had to be inclusive the Stonewall way (ie prioritise TWs over women). A Welsh minister stood up and gave a speech about women and equality and quoted the Equality Act and used 'gender' instead of sex — which is straight out of the Stonewall Law playbook. A handful of women spoke up, but the event was rammed with true believers and any 'troublemakers' were shut down.

This is how Stonewall is pushing onwards: finance and influence for women like Drayton who's so stupid she'll say whatever Stonewall tells her to say. Offering finance to get LGBT+ activists into positions of influence. What's the betting that that money comes via Stonewall and other related organisations?

Meanwhile they make life hell for Rosie Duffield and any other Labour woman brave enough to voice GC views. I'm so angry that even though I'm a Labour member and active in my local CLP I'm not going to be voting

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Froodwithatowel · 21/02/2024 18:37

Yep, fully agree with PPs, fuck Labour.

Vote available right here for an actually socialist and sane party.

Floisme · 21/02/2024 17:48

Looking at Ashley Dalton's Twitter, she's been an MP for barely a year (since Feb 2023) and yet she's already a shadow Minister?

Admittedly there seem to be loads and loads of shadow ministers these days so maybe I'm just out of touch but, even so it sounds like her star is rising impressively fast. I wonder why and how?

duc748 · 21/02/2024 16:58

My MP. God help us.

Melroses · 21/02/2024 16:56

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1760332378520608875

Steph has been having a go on twitter too (Look up and down thread)

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1760332378520608875

Melroses · 21/02/2024 14:48

My family have been Labour on all sides, but I am done with them. They are a mess. No principles, only bandwagons.

EasternStandard · 21/02/2024 11:44

This will really impact women and children when the T part has more money and voice in government as planned

We keep being told to not to be concerned

But reading your post op it’s clear where they are headed

Myalternate · 21/02/2024 11:40

popebishop · 21/02/2024 11:34

You just hold out your petticoats to catch the coins raining from Heaven!

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Damn! That’s why I’ve missed out 😳 I don’t wear petticoats… darn it

Igmum · 21/02/2024 11:40

popebishop · 21/02/2024 11:34

You just hold out your petticoats to catch the coins raining from Heaven!

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Durn it, this is clearly the disadvantage of living in comfy trousers with elasticated waists. I'm sure I have some petticoats somewhere that I could wear over them (additional modesty may well be appreciated by the evangelical crowd since clearly the sight of my ankles will drive people mad with desire and that would be sinful 😇might get some bonus coins for that).

popebishop · 21/02/2024 11:34

Igmum · 21/02/2024 10:21

Awful but not surprising. We need GC lefty voting options for the GE.

Also, do I have to register somewhere for this evangelical funding? I seem to be missing out when every other GC woman is rolling in it.

You just hold out your petticoats to catch the coins raining from Heaven!

popebishop · 21/02/2024 11:33

Steph kept talking about right-wing feminists posing as LGBT+ in order to undermine the trans community.

That exposes Steph's transphobia then. It's not possible to pretend to be trans, is it - saying you're trans is being trans, unless they think there's some external criteria they are supposed to meet?

Floisme · 21/02/2024 11:22

I think I've damaged my spine through all time I've spent bending over backwards to make allowances for the Labour Party.

I did say I'd wait for their manifesto - and I still will - but I'm starting the check out the other electoral choices. In addition to independents and the possibility of Standing for Women candidates, it looks like the Social Democrats plan to stand in quite a lot of constituencies.

Kucinghitam · 21/02/2024 11:14

<Awaits the usual vote-scolding to begin>

EasternStandard · 21/02/2024 10:34

Ffs

Labour are so shit

Igmum · 21/02/2024 10:21

Awful but not surprising. We need GC lefty voting options for the GE.

Also, do I have to register somewhere for this evangelical funding? I seem to be missing out when every other GC woman is rolling in it.

LesbianNan · 21/02/2024 08:28

Ashley Dalton is my MP.
She used to describe herself as a Lesbian. She describes herself as LGBT now and props all this shit up. If that's all she can campaign on then she isn't for me.

There are shootings and drugs, poor health and deprivation, in her constituency. Services have been run down at the local hospital. I've had to travel a couple of hours by two buses to another hospital in Merseyside for skin cancer treatment. It used to take me ten minutes to get to the local hospital. Dalton's too busy doing other things to campaign for us.

I've not seen one leaflet from her through my door since she's been elected. The Tories and Independents have leafleted around local issues at least three times this Winter. Nothing from Labour since last May's local elections. She is taking the local vote for granted.

I voted for her as a new MP. My previous MP, Rosie Cooper, was a great constituency MP. She was an effective voice for those with disabilities particularly.

Dalton is a great disappointment. She's done nothing locally apart from bleat a bit about the local Tory Police Commissioner, who has been quite good to be fair. Her Labour pal is trying to get the post back. Having done such a shit job last time, he managed to be voted out as PCC. Which was a difficult thing to do round here.

I can only see more of the same failure to represent from her on our local issues. She may well be re elected given her majority. This time I'll be voting local Independent.

Brewdug · 21/02/2024 08:00

Oh dear. Dalton is my MP., fairly newly elected. I wondered where she stood on all this.

duc748 · 21/02/2024 01:04

Every time I say, every time Starmer opens his mouth, I feel less inclined to vote for him*; in this case, it's one of his underlings, but the result is the same. Fuck you, Labour Party, if can't stand for what's right.

  • for the avoidance of doubt, of course I won't.
IwantToRetire · 21/02/2024 00:21

Thanks for sharing this. Though not surprised.

But it just brings home that you cannot trust a word Labour says in public. Not just on women's sex based rights but a whole load ofother issues.

That however any of us on FWR vote, Labour will be the next UK Government.

I know it would never happen, but have got to the point that I think political parties shouldn't be allowed to hold meetings like this behind closed doors.

In the past there was the feeling that the media would be more questioning, but all they bother about is personalities.

Have no doubt the Tories are just the same.