Royal College of GPs forced into U-turn after cancelling gender-critical doctors’ conference

OK. How about dangerous instead of stupid? These people are incorrectly recording sex / gender of babies - as the poster I was responding to (medic working in a children's hospital) pointed out:

"If your biological sex is recorded incorrectly on the NHS computer system changes it's highly likely that you will miss out on sex based health interventions in the future e.g breast/ cervical/ prostate cancer screening?"

'Gender' is commonly used as a euphemism for sex, and has been for a long time. So there are a lot of people who think it's the same thing.

'Gender' as an indefinable quality, distinct from a person's sex, and chosen by the individual, is a new meaning of this word, and one which has only come into common usage in the last 5-10 years. There must be many people who are not aware of this new meaning. That doesn't mean they're stupid.

I think that most people (excluding FWR regulars and people steeped in trans ideology) who were given an NHS form which asked for their sex and their gender, would think they were asking for the same thing twice. NHS staff who haven't been given specific training about what the two terms meant would probably think the same.

Isn't that frightening - that there are those working in the NHS so stupid that they don't understand the difference between sex and gender and are incorrectly categorising babies! And colleagues daren't speak up becuase they'll be bullied and no doubt reported.
How have we allowed this to happen?

And I've observed several times that those doing data entry aren't just changing the gender identity box but are also changing the sex categorisation too.

So they think the two have to match? Why would you have two different boxes then? Surely it's common sense that if there are two boxes, they can be different.

Place marking as very interested to hear how this goes. And really pleased it’s going ahead.

Another thanks from me.

Thank you.

I am also attending.

I work in a major children's hospital and this is tangential to my clinical practice but extremely important. The lack of evidence based practice in the UK is deeply concerning. The speaker line up is very impressive.

It is deeply ironic that there are attempts to shut this conference down and sad that it was only the risk of legal action cf. Joanna Cherry/ The Stand that made the RCGP back down.

I worry that my current GC stance will prove to be on the wrong side of history - do the Gender ideology brigade not worry about this too? There is a culture of fear about discussing GC opinions in the current NHS. My employer allows gender identity to be recorded on fucking new born babies. And I've observed several times that those doing data entry aren't just changing the gender identity box but are also changing the sex categorisation too. I think it's because they don't appreciate the difference between gender identity and sex.

There is the potential for so much harm. If your biological sex is recorded incorrectly on the NHS computer system changes it's highly likely that you will miss out on sex based health interventions in the future e.g breast/ cervical/ prostate cancer screening?

No amount of wishful thinking about your gender can take away those risks. It may be that extensive exposure to high levels of exogenous hormones modifies the risks. But again, we need to know that!

Thank you to those who are attending - please do report back! Presumably much of what is discussed in relation to children/young people could also apply to adults? The 'treatment' for GD is still harmful whether to an adult or a child's body.

I am attending via live stream as I can’t be in London on that day. This topic is tangential to my practice, but a colleague I have a lot of respect for is speaking and I want to show support. And I hate the world upside down notion that discussing evidence about what is safe versus not safe is somehow “unsafe”. If people expect doctors to prescribe these drugs, then the evidence base must be established (or not)…

i am attending this.

I'm attending virtually via the livestream. I'll make a donation to the conference for its costs. (I've worked with one of the speakers and know another.)

i am attending this. i am a paediatric health care professional working in child protection in the NHS.
the speakers are well informed and look to be bringing an interesting and useful message to the world of children's safeguarding and well being.
closing down debate is no different to the behaviours of dictators the world over. i received an email last week from the organisers asking for public support for the event to go ahead due to pressure form the TRA side. i was still deciding how far i was willing to go when I heard of the developments.
interestingly the team i work with are very keen for me to go and feedback the learning. there are many of us who want to look at the issue through a broad lens and keep children's welfare first and foremost. but many are scared to speak out. we were forced to attend 'unconscious' bias training recently that was in fact a TRA telling everyone about there 'wrong think'. Well i say everyone, i happened to have annual leave that day for something very important that couldn't be changed 😉
i will be booking my train to attend this and will feedback here after the event.

“A spokesman for the Association of LGBTQ+ Doctors & Dentists said: “The existence and rights of gender-diverse people are not up for debate and the community currently does not feel safe as the result of actions of groups like CAN-SG. This is not about wokery but about decency.”

🙄 The irony.