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Schools Guidance Consultation closes 12 of March - can we collate ideas for responding?

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ValancyRedfern · 17/02/2024 11:01

Hi All,

I'm concerned people (including myself!) may lost track of time and forget to respond to the schools guidance. I thought it would be useful to create a thread collating and discussing ideas for responding. I know there are still some response guides to come from SSA and Sex Matters. I'm posting in a rush right now but I will be back with any links I can find. This is so important as all the Usual Suspects will be responding, and many Unions, charities, MATs and individual schools are currently saying this is only draft guidance so can and should be ignored. We need to ensure our voices are heard.

Link to consultation:

https://consult.education.gov.uk/equalities-political-impartiality-anti-bullying-team/gender-questioning-children-proposed-guidance/

Link to draft guidance:

https://consult.education.gov.uk/equalities-political-impartiality-anti-bullying-team/gender-questioning-children-proposed-guidance/supporting_documents/Gender%20Questioning%20Children%20%20nonstatutory%20guidance.pdf

Guidance for Schools and Colleges: Gender Questioning Children - Department for Education - Citizen Space

Find and participate in consultations run by the Department for Education

https://consult.education.gov.uk/equalities-political-impartiality-anti-bullying-team/gender-questioning-children-proposed-guidance

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JanesLittleGirl · 13/03/2024 11:09

Thanks @MrsOvertonsWindow

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/03/2024 10:36

JanesLittleGirl · 12/03/2024 22:18

So what happens next and when does it happen?

Presumably the civil servants in the DfE read, record, categorise all the various responses. Then the group that puts this together assess the feedback, produce an amended version and it's ready to go.

There may be an issue with some trans captured civil servants breaching their requirement to be neutral and attempting to highlight certain views over others or "disappearing" some submissions as has happened with other consultations and in light of the SEEN complaint about civil servants and bias. Hopefully that will be spotted and stopped.

Yesterday's NHS England ban on puberty blockers will hopefully focus minds when considering responses from lobby groups desperate to continue being able to access children in schools.

WickedSerious · 13/03/2024 07:19

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2024 21:50

Maltesers all round!

I celebrated with Toblerone truffles.

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2024 07:04

Well done all you last minuters!

Humanslug · 13/03/2024 00:06

I hit submit as the clock struck 00.00 - I got a receipt to say they’ve received it so I assume it went through in the nick of time. It wasn’t as detailed as I’d have liked but I think I got my main points across.

HydraDominatus · 12/03/2024 22:44

and done, I do like a last minute

JanesLittleGirl · 12/03/2024 22:18

So what happens next and when does it happen?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/03/2024 21:57

Yay. Well done everyone Flowers

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2024 21:50

Maltesers all round!

soupycustard · 12/03/2024 21:34

Done just in the nick of time!

WarriorN · 12/03/2024 20:51

GinCakeGrin

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2024 20:50

I'm done. 😘

JanesLittleGirl · 12/03/2024 20:30

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2024 20:28

There's still time!

So don't waste time posting on here then. Focus!

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2024 20:28

There's still time!

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2024 20:28

Grinding through it ...

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2024 17:35

WickedSerious · 12/03/2024 17:06

You can do it.

I can! I just got distracted by NHS England news ...

I'llBuyThatForADollar · 12/03/2024 17:26

Thank you MrsOvertonsWindow Flowers x

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/03/2024 17:09

I'llBuyThatForADollar · 12/03/2024 16:58

Today I did something really important for my daughter. I submitted a response to this.

To all the wonderful women of Mumsnet, thank you. Because of you, I've learned so much about this and you've spurred me on to read numerous books and articles about protecting our rights. I hope we can make changes to keep all of us and our children safe.

What a lovely comment. Flowers

WickedSerious · 12/03/2024 17:06

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2024 16:13

Okay! 18 pages to read. Let's go.

You can do it.

I'llBuyThatForADollar · 12/03/2024 16:58

Today I did something really important for my daughter. I submitted a response to this.

To all the wonderful women of Mumsnet, thank you. Because of you, I've learned so much about this and you've spurred me on to read numerous books and articles about protecting our rights. I hope we can make changes to keep all of us and our children safe.

Hazycoffeek · 12/03/2024 16:38

De lurking to say thanks for the reminder and I’ve submitted my response.

JanesLittleGirl · 12/03/2024 16:37

Done!

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2024 16:13

Okay! 18 pages to read. Let's go.

ANewCreation · 12/03/2024 15:21

Done! Another last minuter here. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good (enough)

Humanslug · 12/03/2024 14:29

I know I’ll be sending mine in just before midnight - and it’ll take me hours to fill out. I find it quite daunting but know it needs to be done. If loads of children are filling it out (as they’re being encouraged to by various groups like Stonewall) I’m sure I can manage it.

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