Butch Lesbians, Kristen Stewart and Stella O'Malley

Don't mind me, I'm just jealous that she's a baronness and I'm not - Baroness Marie de Gournay has a Natalie Clifford Barney kinda vibe, hasn't it?☺

I know she gets pilloried on here but I've met Ruth Hunt through work and she is awesome 👌. And her clothes are sharp.
Goes to show you can't judge people by their Internet reputation.

Me neither. Totally baffled by it all.

IANALesbian.

However this is pornified male gaze stuff. She's a conventionally attractive actress with long hair. The tween star turned rebel sex fiend trope is dated and boring. I have more respect for the old 70s and 80s stars who posed for Playboy when they needed the cash and attention.

Why has she got her hand down the front of her knickers?

Kirsten Stewart is trying to look butch in that photo?

Since when was androgenous the same as butch?

Wasn't Bindel otherwise engaged in an interview with Hayton?

I find the same. She says that she makes mistakes and gets things wrong because she does so much output. If she spent time picking her words more carefully she'd get less done.

She does come across as pretty superficial in her understanding. E.g. when talking about Phil Illy at the Genspect conference she says people had a go at her just for letting him be there in a dress. This was true, but the more substantive reason for the anger was her organisation apparently promoting his book about being AGP, which she just brushes off.

Yes, my lesbian circle is enraged about this. As if deciding that dressing in a practical, comfortable way that allows us to be as active and unrestricted as men is some kind of fetish. As if deciding to challenge gender norms by wearing a suit or a shirt and tie or a traditionally male haircut is a sexual rather than a political statement. She revealed the depth of her ignorance and lack of understanding in that statement.

I wasn't a fan at a time when lots of others seemed to get a lot out of her. More confidence than insight: inconsistent. More recently I've seen a couple of interviews where she didn't set my spidey senses off, but I suspect now she's one of those women who, despite calling herself a feminist and talking the talk, doesn't really get it, doesn't really have any deep understanding of lesbians and other non-conforming women.

I feel your pain, thatsthewayitis!

Why couldn't she wear a high end 3 piece menswear suit like a boss, or motorcycle leathers and be a Butch pinup?

• • The last butch lesbian in a high end three piece suit who got mentioned on MN was baroness Ruth Hunt, and that didn't end well...

I find it sad there aren't any current role models for Butch Lesbians
There aren't?? [Slicks hair back and adjusts cufflinks...]😎

I don't think I've ever seen her look anything but miserable.

Even with the bad mullet, she still doesn't look very butch either despite the jockstrap.