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For women Scotland given leave to appeal.

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Rainbowshit · 16/02/2024 12:12

x.com/forwomenscot/status/1758462083832639848?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

Great news. We need to get digging.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2024 11:33

Thank you Susan and everyone at FWS Flowers

LarkLane · 28/02/2024 11:30

@SusanSmithFWS Thank you for all that you are doing for women and girls.
You are amazing and give me courage.

( Also thanks for calling out Brendan Rogers, he was a dick at Liverpool and still a dick - good on yer!)😁

Boiledbeetle · 28/02/2024 10:46

@SusanSmithFWS thank you to all the women at For Women Scotland for everything you do.

Now if someone could hurry up and donate another £160 I can get the next screenshot!!

Flower Love GIF by Chippy the Dog
Signalbox · 28/02/2024 10:39

SusanSmithFWS · 28/02/2024 08:38

Hi all! Just popping in to say thank you so much for all the landscaping and horticultural work! Magnificent digging and we are very grateful.

This case, hopefully, will give us clarity on GRCs once and for all so it matters for all of the UK. You are all superstars!

Thank you Susan and everyone at FWS for all you are doing. The sunlight and debate that these cases bring along with them has completely transformed the situation in the UK.
💐💐💐

SusanSmithFWS · 28/02/2024 08:38

Hi all! Just popping in to say thank you so much for all the landscaping and horticultural work! Magnificent digging and we are very grateful.

This case, hopefully, will give us clarity on GRCs once and for all so it matters for all of the UK. You are all superstars!

ScrollingLeaves · 27/02/2024 20:01

Thank you, I am reading it but by bit. He sets out the history of the law on sex / gender very clearly even for people with no knowledge of legal language.

LarkLane · 26/02/2024 15:59

BezMills · 26/02/2024 13:54

I often wonder if the Tralala Scold Crew spend any time at all on male-dominated forums telling off other men for transphobia. My guess is no
because misogyny

It's never like this on pistonheads.
^^

BezMills · 26/02/2024 13:54

I often wonder if the Tralala Scold Crew spend any time at all on male-dominated forums telling off other men for transphobia. My guess is no
because misogyny

BusyMummy001 · 26/02/2024 13:27

I’m just here for the spectacle now… 🍿

lechiffre55 · 26/02/2024 13:20

@DadJoke
You are under no obligation, but I'd be curious if you can provide any answer to my question to you on the previous page of this thread please.

GailBlancheViola · 26/02/2024 09:51

It's a weird phenomena isn't it. Men like DadJoke seemingly unable to countenance being completely irrelevant.

So even when they thoroughly disagree with women's rights, they still need to find a way to tell women all their opinions about it.

I wonder how many other women's spaces Dadjoke does it to. I bet there are loads.

I am sure he does, he thoroughly enjoys lecturing and telling women what he deems they are, what they must do, what they must say, what they must accept. He is Olympic Gold Medal level misogynist patriarch.

LarkLane · 26/02/2024 09:24

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Felix125 · 09/09/2023 09:15
Because that what harassers do - they often do just enough to cause harassment, just to let the other person know that they are still there and haven't left them alone. (shortened version- it's a long post))

Perhaps impersonating a police officer online along with endlessly posting about harassment didn't work out for him.

We just don't know. 😉

Datun · 26/02/2024 09:23

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/02/2024 09:14

I don't think Dadjoke is Felix, although I can totally see why people do.

I don't think so, either.

But yes, exactly the same attitude. Uninformed opining, largely motivated by women's complete disinterest in it.

You see everywhere.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/02/2024 09:14

I don't think Dadjoke is Felix, although I can totally see why people do.

Boiledbeetle · 26/02/2024 09:07

lechiffre55 · 26/02/2024 09:06

In an entirely unrelated matter, anyone seen Felix around recently?

We just don't know where he is!

lechiffre55 · 26/02/2024 09:06

In an entirely unrelated matter, anyone seen Felix around recently?

Datun · 26/02/2024 09:03

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/02/2024 14:49

@RedToothBrush

I really don't know who all these men think they are. Because as I said, it's not just those on FWR. It is a new phenomenon to me, this "more feminist than thou" in men to feminist women. No men gave a shit about feminism in the past, including leftist ones.

It's a weird phenomena isn't it. Men like DadJoke seemingly unable to countenance being completely irrelevant.

So even when they thoroughly disagree with women's rights, they still need to find a way to tell women all their opinions about it.

I wonder how many other women's spaces Dadjoke does it to. I bet there are loads.

Boiledbeetle · 25/02/2024 18:38

£144,000

For women Scotland given leave to appeal.
Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/02/2024 15:28

I am really fucking tired of stating that the law states we have sex based rights and we need to be aware of this, only to be told that is irrelevant and that in all situations the feelings and yes, fears of women are not important, that gender and sex are used interchangably and are the sex thing and if you question the lack of balance, impact of assessment involving ALL vested interest parties or even slightly suggest that priority should not be given to trans people at all times this produces the scream of TRRRAAANNNSSSSPPPPHHHOOOBBIIIAAA.

And this. Bang on 🎯

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/02/2024 15:26

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/5014437-to-be-angry-that-scarlet-blake-is-being-called-a-woman

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/02/2024 15:25

There is literally nothing to gender identity ideology. It falls down at the slightest scrutiny. I'm glad we are now able to question it in the media somewhat, but as you say it is always framed as "anti trans" as if, instead of safeguarding the rights of women and girls, a group of mean women decided to attack "trans people's" rights for fun, while a full, coherent definition of either "trans" or an explanation of what rights they think they don't have and should is almost never given.

Women have to put up with the most heinous crimes of men being attributed to us and gaslighted about it, such as Scarlet Blake, an MTF who livestreamed the torture and murder of a cat to his partner (also MTF) and then murdered a strange man he met in the street, these men are both called "women" in certain media outlets, with some grudging additions later of the word "transgender" which is obfuscatory and confusing.

RedToothBrush · 25/02/2024 15:11

I am really fucking tired of stating that the law states we have sex based rights and we need to be aware of this, only to be told that is irrelevant and that in all situations the feelings and yes, fears of women are not important, that gender and sex are used interchangably and are the sex thing and if you question the lack of balance, impact of assessment involving ALL vested interest parties or even slightly suggest that priority should not be given to trans people at all times this produces the scream of TRRRAAANNNSSSSPPPPHHHOOOBBIIIAAA.

No where in this dialogue are women's rights considerate legitimate never mind worthy of respect. You see it constantly in headlines where women's rights campaigners wanting to uphold THEIR EXISTING RIGHTS are framed as anti-trans.

The whole thing is about women should be subservient to males.

I'm done with it.

I'm done with facilitating it or indulging it. Or it being made out its a party political issue.

Either you think women need and should have sex based rights that don't include penises or you are a sexist wanker who think theres 'a grey area'. No really there isn't because if you do, youve just undermined biological sex in law and the ability of the law to functioning in practice to protect women along the lines of biological sex.

By all means have a gender identity, but understand its quasi religious in nature, no one else should be forced to adhere to it too and have legal protections for it based on something definable and workable thats not at the expense of sex based rights.

Its not about purity spirals or fucking 'politeness'. Its about coherence and workable law.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/02/2024 14:56

100%.

RedToothBrush · 25/02/2024 14:54

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/02/2024 14:49

@RedToothBrush

I really don't know who all these men think they are. Because as I said, it's not just those on FWR. It is a new phenomenon to me, this "more feminist than thou" in men to feminist women. No men gave a shit about feminism in the past, including leftist ones.

And suddenly they are all into this new 'progressive feminism' which includes men and destroys sex based right and protections in the process and reinstates dated harmful gender stereotypes that also harm women?

Funny coincedence isn't it?

Its almost as if this new 'progressive feminism' is actually a trojan horse and is really a Mens Right Movement which is openly sexist and hates women.