New London Train Line Names

£6m is a few hours of TfL's income and essentially small change to them.

Absolutely, in time people will get used to it and it will make navigation much easier.

Imagine trying to find your way around King's Cross if none of the Underground lines had names!

It’s TfL money, nothing to
do with the tories. they, as in TFL, could have spent it on better services.

Having a line named after women is a nice bonus. What I care more about is the actual service.

If you need to plan a route, which people do from looking at the maps every day, there's no indication of the actual routes - Circle and District makes sense visually, Victoria makes sense visually, Northern makes sense (just about, it all gets a bit vague unless you already know whether you need to go past Mornington Crescent or not unless you're standing in front of the split map in the station) - but the Overground is just a tangle of orange which doesn't actually show what bits are directly linked up or where you have to go to one place and then travel back the way you came on a different service for a considerable distance.

Also, if someone hears 'disruption on the Windrush Line at Norwood Junction', they know instantly that this affects their journey and they'd be better off going to ECR to get to, say, Guys (excluding the fact that there are extra express trains from ECR so it would be quicker in any case) because the express trains use a different line to the stopping services from West Croydon.

I think it's super useful renaming them. I live in Stratford and sometimes want to go to Hackney, but can never remember which overground lines go where, as two separate lines go through Hackney. So everytime I have to look at the map to figure out what I'm doing. Now I know to just see if its on the Mildmay, or windrush lines.

Absolutely!!!

The money is also incredibly small change for TfL. They'll have made that much today already.

To add to my forecast re informal names, research suggests the Lioness Line will become the Liney Line.

Whereas in reality Khan has made London a lot worse for women.

Spending £6m on this, millions on Maaate adverts etc, and yet sexual assaults on public transport are increasing, muggings during the day on Oxford street, no go areas thanks to LTNs etc.

OMG stop complaining ffs.
I thought you would have all been happy that some of the lines are named after women instead of discussing the trope of ‘the whole world is against women’.
the ‘6million’ this cost wouldn’t have done anything for women as the tories don’t give a fuck so don’t believe the ‘they know what a woman is’ line.

1980s artist's impression of a Crossrail train. It was always the intention to call it that when it opened.

Perhaps they should've renamed to Charles Line, Edward Line, Henry Line etc? 😈

TfL Rail was only ever a temporary name used before Crossrail opened in full and was never intended to be permanent.

Oh, hell, yeah. It's a million times better than the sucking-up-to-the-establishment Elizabeth line.

It was renamed to TFL Rail, before being renamed again.

So why don't you call it TFL Rail then?

I'm chuffed with this news. I regularly use several bits of the overground. I think it's good to have different names to distinguish the different bits and I like the feminist/progressive vibe.

Wanton wankery at its best. Man’s a tosser

Honestly, the Overground is now a very large network of lines that is potentially going to get bigger in future, and one big orange clump is no longer working.

Sure, you can consider it a waste of money, but TfL carries so many people every day that £6m is really small change. There's over 4m journeys a day on the Underground, buses are something like 9m, and the Overground and DLR are quite a lot more on top of that. £6m is probably a couple of hours of TfL's income. Given that it operates 24/7, it's an almost insignificant amount of money, and the potential benefits of this will all have been properly costed up before the project was approved.

I'd suggest that if you want to get angry about something, there's probably better choices available.

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat yes but I often use the Overground from Clapham Junction to Shepherds Bush and kind of forget that the line goes all the way around to Stratford - which is completely the opposite side of London. From Clapham Junction I would be travelling in a west direction - Stratford is over in the east.
Some people might not click that CJ to Stratford is "their" line if they hear that announcement.

What's wrong with Disruption on the Overground between Stratford and Clapham Junction?

It's clear. No need to waste millions on it.

Why concentrate on the optic and not on the performance? It's diabolical. Why not fix that, instead of attaching pretty new names on it?

And well timed, with the strikes next week, so that PEOPLE,e can see what their money is spent on. Frippery.

Sorry. I use it a lot, and all I want is better service. Not a ridiculous colouring in exercise, that will only confuse the already overloaded transport map.

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat yes but...
Underground = several different lines but under one banner of "underground" so identified by different colours to make it easier.
Overground = several different lines but under one banner of "overground" but identified by....just one colour 🤷

It still needs dividing up, though. It's now a lot of different services and making them distinct lines makes it much easier to navigate, and provide information.

The point was that it was markedly different from the Underground.

Exactly!!!

"Lioness line" is the only one I really don't like, because it's a mouthful and it feels excessively trivial. I don't think it has the historical clout to be remembered. I also hate football, regardless of whether it's men or women playing it.

The others seem good, though.

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat but it was all orange yet actually several separate lines.
Can you imagine if the Underground lines were all the same colour on the map?