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Get back in your box women, you're a right wing animal if you think men should be kept out of sport. "Why have rightwingers made even parkrun a battleground for trans people?"

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AlphariusOmegron · 14/02/2024 09:19

Right wingers, meant as an insult, are to blame for ruining Park Run, not men in frocks.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/feb/14/why-have-rightwingers-made-even-parkrun-a-battleground-for-trans-people

Complain here:
https://www.theguardian.com/info/2014/sep/12/-sp-how-to-make-a-complaint-about-guardian-or-observer-content

Voices must be heard, even if this is an opinion piece. This mad ideology only continues whilst we allow it and not speaking up is a CHOICE to allow it to keep happening.

Why have rightwingers made even parkrun a battleground for trans people? | Jonathan Liew

When non-competitive, mass-participation jogging is annexed by the culture warriors, it’s clear there are other agendas at play

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/feb/14/why-have-rightwingers-made-even-parkrun-a-battleground-for-trans-people

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grafittiartist · 14/02/2024 09:48

I've thought a lot about this recently.
I'd like to say a massive thank you to the women who did cause a fuss. I'm ashamed that I didn't.
Thank you for shouting, and sorry that you're receiving such ill informed angry sexist rubbish in response.
Daren't read the article!!

BackToLurk · 14/02/2024 09:47

Beat me to it @nauticant

ResisterRex · 14/02/2024 09:47

WE WANT OUR FUCKING STUFF BACK

4w.pub/a-message-to-those-recently-opining/

BackToLurk · 14/02/2024 09:46

nauticant · 14/02/2024 09:30

He put up his article on Twitter. And then, horror of horrors, people responded:

https://twitter.com/jonathanliew/status/1757684549272601084

Love Sophie Walker's response. Damned by his own words

nauticant · 14/02/2024 09:42

A very on-point reply tweet:

https://twitter.com/SophieRunning/status/1757698194803204285

WickedSerious · 14/02/2024 09:41

dapsnotplimsolls · 14/02/2024 09:31

I saw the title of the article earlier but couldn't face reading it.

You're very wise,it's giblets.

dapsnotplimsolls · 14/02/2024 09:37

We iz just fick, innit?

theilltemperedclavecinist · 14/02/2024 09:35

So much to be angry about. I picked out this:

there is of course a genuine fear there: the feeling on the part of certain women that their space is being encroached upon, that trans rights are an extension of the patriarchy they have long been fighting. The problem is that this anger is being whipped up and exploited by malign actors, the media and politicians of on the reactionary right, to advance causes that go well beyond the remit of women’s sport

So, the women are stupid pawns, people who agree with them are malign, right wingers want to stop trans people existing. I'm not right wing but I don't actually think they're as malevolent as all that. He's insulted just about everybody.

dapsnotplimsolls · 14/02/2024 09:31

I saw the title of the article earlier but couldn't face reading it.

nauticant · 14/02/2024 09:30

He put up his article on Twitter. And then, horror of horrors, people responded:

https://twitter.com/jonathanliew/status/1757684549272601084

MrsOvertonsWindow · 14/02/2024 09:29

That's a good letter OP. It's a grim hyperbolic article isn't it? Lacking in evidence or critical thinking but full of catastrophising hysteria.

lanadelgrey · 14/02/2024 09:28

This sentence is factually wrong.
‘if you’re one of the growing army trying to restrict the access of trans people to sport’.
No one is restricted from their own sex or open category. It is true that for fair competition, some people want to restrict ‘ the access of trans people women to sports that are segregated into male and female categories. Hope FairPlay have seen the piece.

RoyalCorgi · 14/02/2024 09:26

Just when I thought I couldn't hate the Guardian more...

This is the same guy who wrote that stupid article for the Independent a few years back, do you remember?

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/caster-semenya-news-gender-martina-navratilova-trans-cas-jonathan-liew-column-a8792861.html

I wouldn't mind so much if these men just said: "I hate women. They're silly and pathetic and their sports don't matter." At least it would be honest. It's the fact that they do it under the guise of being progressive and painting those of us who stand up for women as right-wing extremists and culture warriors.

The prejudice of those who argue against trans, intersex & DSD athletes

This week, DSD athlete Caster Semenya has fought the decision to set a limit on allowable testosterone levels for athletes. And, for some, this is the final stroke of the Doomsday Clock, the opening of the floodgates

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/caster-semenya-news-gender-martina-navratilova-trans-cas-jonathan-liew-column-a8792861.html

AlphariusOmegron · 14/02/2024 09:22

Should you wish to, this is my letter to the guardian, feel free to steal as much of it as you like.

Dear Editor,
I am writing to express my profound disappointment and concern regarding the portrayal of individuals who advocate for the protection of women's sports in a recent opinion piece published in your outlet. I find it deeply troubling that the article seems to categorize those of us with legitimate concerns about the fairness and integrity of women's sports as "right-wing," thereby dismissing our arguments and concerns as purely politically motivated.

It is my strong belief that advocating for the protection of women's sports is not a matter of political ideology but of fairness and safety for female athletes. The suggestion that such concerns are inherently misogynistic, racist, or antithetical to feminist principles is not only baseless but deeply offensive. As a parent of a daughter, I am acutely aware of the importance of ensuring a level playing field where her rights and opportunities are not compromised.

Additionally, I find it particularly offensive that a man has authored this piece on a matter so intrinsically linked to women's rights and spaces. This choice effectively silences and marginalizes women's voices, further exacerbating the issue by prioritizing male perspectives on a subject that primarily affects women. Such editorial decisions undermine the importance of amplifying female voices in discussions about their own rights and protections.

I urge The Guardian to reconsider the framing of such discussions in its publications. It is essential to foster a balanced and nuanced conversation that respects the complexities of this issue, rather than resorting to divisive labels and accusations. As a long-time reader, I hope for a more inclusive and respectful approach to sensitive topics in the future.
Sincerely,

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