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Sunak telling Robin White that biological sex is important live on GB news

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fromorbit · 12/02/2024 21:09

'Particularly when it comes to questions around women's safety and health, biological sex is important.' Parents need to be involved in schools.

Rishi Sunak is asked 'why should LGBT people vote Conservative?'
GB News forum footage here:
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1757143443111841900

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1757143443111841900

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MistyGreenAndBlue · 13/02/2024 09:30

Kalevala · 13/02/2024 09:16

I wouldn't be at all surprised at a little girl called Robin. Someone in their sixties I'd assume male.

My landlady in the '90s who would be in her 70s now was called Robin.
I never thought it was a man's name particularly. I knew one in my teens too - about my own age. (I'm 52)

PaperWalkAndTalk · 13/02/2024 09:29

A question I would like to ask someone like RMW is "what part of LGB were you before you transitioned"?

I just find it odd (although everyone's doing it now) of these heterosexual men who now believe that they are part of the gay community. Apparently in the old days the homosexual transsexuals did not want to be associated with the heterosexual transvestites.

Helleofabore · 13/02/2024 09:29

SabrinaThwaite · 13/02/2024 08:00

TBF, RMW has said that they didn’t want to risk vocal chord surgery, what with being a barista barrister.

White acknowledged that White’s voice had power necessary for White’s success in the court room. And tried to deny that that ‘power’ came from a male set of lungs as well as the male timbre of that voice.

PaperWalkAndTalk · 13/02/2024 09:25

What's interesting is the distraction techniques used (from the Guardian letter, the faux outrage of Starmer last week, people criticising a TV channel etc). No one ever goes on about the actual issue, instead attack other issues, like "culture war" etc.

That's because the fact that people are losing their rights due to a very vocal subset of a small minority and it's very obvious, you look rather stupid when you have to deny biological reality to #bekind.

I don't care what political party the person is, what media it is, if someone like the PM can say this stuff publicly (after attempts last week to silence him), then that is a positive, and no one can claim that anything that was said was offensive.

LarkLane · 13/02/2024 09:23

GB news is not a channel I tend to watch so thanks for linking the clip.

As someone who has never voted Conservative in my life I think that Sunak came across really well. He's the father of two daughters, I'm sure that he does mean what he says. Nothing controversial in what he said at all, just a concern for women and children, and quite respectful when asked about the T.

I think RMW needs to do a lot more of these appearances.
RMW could be most helpful in assisting the public to make up their own mind about Sunak's answers.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 13/02/2024 09:17

rabbitwoman · 13/02/2024 08:40

In the upcoming election, I will be voting Tory. For the last 30+ years my husband and I have voted Labour - and lib dem to tactically unseat the tories - so this is a HUGE turnaround for me, almost exclusively on this exact issue.

Now, it might not make any difference whatever. But, there are certainly some seats that have been won by literally a handful of votes. And I remember when Brown lost the election, Cameron didn't even get a majority.

The Tories are undoubtedly out at the next election - whatever I think, it's just time for a new government - but a handful of seats lost on a handful of votes really could make the difference between a strong and stable Labour government and a shaky collaboration.

And Starmer reminds me of Varys from Game of thrones. Where as rishi seems thoroughly decent.

Just saying.

The trouble with a coalition is who do Labour collaborate with? Lib dem, Green, SNP - from a women's rights point of view, all the options are worse than Labour alone.

Kalevala · 13/02/2024 09:16

Chersfrozenface · 13/02/2024 08:02

Yes

The abbreviation RMW in earlier posts stands for Robin Moira White.

Anyway, Robin is used for girls (actual girls) now. At one time I heard a belief that Robyn was the female spelling, but I'm not sure that was ever universally true.

I wouldn't be at all surprised at a little girl called Robin. Someone in their sixties I'd assume male.

WickedSerious · 13/02/2024 09:13

PaperWalkAndTalk · 13/02/2024 09:02

Everything I disagree with is Far Right and Nazis.

It's raining today, I don't like the rain because it's far-right.

It's hammering down here:big old Nazi drops the size of pound coins.

Peskysquirrel · 13/02/2024 09:11

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Peskysquirrel · 13/02/2024 09:09

No good can ever come with associating yourself with this type of people or tv channel.

I don't "associate myself" with this type of person or tv channel. I have the mental capacity to listen to what they say and evaluate it critically.

You could always suggest some left-wing politicians and tv channels I could tune into on these issues?

Flamme · 13/02/2024 09:08

Does he really think we are going to fall for this?

EasternStandard · 13/02/2024 09:02

Boiledbeetle · 13/02/2024 08:58

No good can ever come with associating yourself with this type of people or tv channel.

Why do i feel someone is walking through the thread with a bell shouting "UNCLEAN UNCLEAN!"

Step away from GB news ladies before your brain rots and you become incapable of thinking!I

FFS

Haha the tone of it made me laugh

Very women know your place

PaperWalkAndTalk · 13/02/2024 09:02

Everything I disagree with is Far Right and Nazis.

It's raining today, I don't like the rain because it's far-right.

popebishop · 13/02/2024 09:02

RedToothBrush · 13/02/2024 08:23

Ooo so we also have confirmation that Robin White is aligned with the far right too then?

?
Yes, that's what I said! Grin
(It was a joke, I don't watch GB News but I'm still capable of analysing what is said on there, in case starting is concerned)

Again... It's the "logic" that would suggest both sides are wrong for having their views broadcast on that channel.

RedToothBrush · 13/02/2024 09:01

Boiledbeetle · 13/02/2024 08:58

No good can ever come with associating yourself with this type of people or tv channel.

Why do i feel someone is walking through the thread with a bell shouting "UNCLEAN UNCLEAN!"

Step away from GB news ladies before your brain rots and you become incapable of thinking!I

FFS

I repeat.

Why is it ok for RMW to go and associate themselves with this channel but not Rishi Sunak?

Why is RS far right but not RMW?

Signalbox · 13/02/2024 09:00

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Boiledbeetle · 13/02/2024 08:58

No good can ever come with associating yourself with this type of people or tv channel.

Why do i feel someone is walking through the thread with a bell shouting "UNCLEAN UNCLEAN!"

Step away from GB news ladies before your brain rots and you become incapable of thinking!I

FFS

Startingagainandagain · 13/02/2024 08:54

You are referring to GB 'news', seriously?

The channel is a propaganda machine for far right views and Sunak is a corrupt and incompetent PM.

The fact that you might agree with him on this one point (gender) should not mean that you should ignore the above facts.

No good can ever come with associating yourself with this type of people or tv channel.

Sunak has zero interest in supporting women by the way...this is just another desperate attempt to get a few votes from the gullible...

EasternStandard · 13/02/2024 08:50

I hope this picks up

Starmer will find it hard to respond beyond we don’t talk about that

rabbitwoman · 13/02/2024 08:40

In the upcoming election, I will be voting Tory. For the last 30+ years my husband and I have voted Labour - and lib dem to tactically unseat the tories - so this is a HUGE turnaround for me, almost exclusively on this exact issue.

Now, it might not make any difference whatever. But, there are certainly some seats that have been won by literally a handful of votes. And I remember when Brown lost the election, Cameron didn't even get a majority.

The Tories are undoubtedly out at the next election - whatever I think, it's just time for a new government - but a handful of seats lost on a handful of votes really could make the difference between a strong and stable Labour government and a shaky collaboration.

And Starmer reminds me of Varys from Game of thrones. Where as rishi seems thoroughly decent.

Just saying.

NotBadConsidering · 13/02/2024 08:27

RedToothBrush · 13/02/2024 08:23

Ooo so we also have confirmation that Robin White is aligned with the far right too then?

I can also safely ignore everything Robin said here because it’s on GB News who previously have focused on things I oppose. If the source isn’t pure enough then it doesn’t matter what is actually said. Until RMW appears on Stonewall TV News hosted by Ben Hunte and Benjamin Buttergasp, it’s like nothing important is being said.

I think that’s also how it works🤔.

fromorbit · 13/02/2024 08:26

Rosie Duffield interviewed on the discussion:
https://twitter.com/OkayBiology/status/1757191027490726252

GB news now has the footage on their website:
https://www.gbnews.com/politics/rishi-sunak-trans-voter-lgbt-policies

The Guardian is not impressed.

The Guardian view on Rishi Sunak’s transgender jibe: sorry seems to be the hardest word Editorial
The prime minister should be making an apology to a murdered teenager’s parents rather than continuing with a culture war on GB News
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/11/the-guardian-view-on-rishi-sunaks-transgender-jibe-sorry-seems-to-be-the-hardest-word

https://twitter.com/OkayBiology/status/1757191027490726252

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RedToothBrush · 13/02/2024 08:23

popebishop · 12/02/2024 21:13

By appearing on GB News RW really is aligning with the Far Right!

Tut tut

Isn't that the logic they always wheel out?

Ooo so we also have confirmation that Robin White is aligned with the far right too then?

SabrinaThwaite · 13/02/2024 08:20

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Well that was RMW’s claim.

But yeah, we all know that it’s about wanting to hang on to the gravitas traditionally associated with a male voice.

FrancescaContini · 13/02/2024 08:10

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