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Sunak telling Robin White that biological sex is important live on GB news

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fromorbit · 12/02/2024 21:09

'Particularly when it comes to questions around women's safety and health, biological sex is important.' Parents need to be involved in schools.

Rishi Sunak is asked 'why should LGBT people vote Conservative?'
GB News forum footage here:
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1757143443111841900

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1757143443111841900

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Snowypeaks · 15/02/2024 20:47

This pigeon chess stuff is like talking to a politician. It's why people distrust politicians.

OldCrone · 15/02/2024 20:46

AdamRyan · 15/02/2024 19:49

  1. happy to discuss on another thread so as not to derail this one (although just posting appears to have done that so I should not have bothered)
  2. and 3) schools don't have money to do "basic safeguarding". That's a fact. It's a fact beyond trans issues. None of the recommendations can be implemented without resource. Hardly controversial.
  3. I was responding to this comment: "We have two TRA teachers at ours who've transed their own kids." Only the parents know their own situation, I think its not really anyone's business how parents choose to handle their child's identity issues. Again, not controversial.

People can read what I wrote for themselves but this putting words into people's mouths is not OK.

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Only the parents know their own situation, I think its not really anyone's business how parents choose to handle their child's identity issues. Again, not controversial.

And yet there are schools where children are socially transitioned at school by the staff, who do not tell the parents about this. If you really believe that the parents should be the ones deciding how to "handle their child's identity issues", you must agree that this should not be happening.

Boiledbeetle · 15/02/2024 20:43

Helleofabore · 15/02/2024 20:41

It is about the clip in the thread. A question from White plus the extended question.

The OP included the clip that they wish to discuss. Are you now telling us that you know the OP’s mind better than their own actions ? Are you the OP as a sock account ?

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Erm... More like telling us they haven't actually read the opening post or watched the clip.

Boiledbeetle · 15/02/2024 20:41

AdamRyan · 15/02/2024 20:36

Fine, if you want to discuss schools on here let's do that.
I thought it was a thread about RMW

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Sunak telling Robin White that biological sex is important live on GB news 425 replies

fromorbit · 12/02/2024 21:09

'Particularly when it comes to questions around women's safety and health, biological sex is important.' Parents need to be involved in schools.

Rishi Sunak is asked 'why should LGBT people vote Conservative?'

GB News forum footage here:

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1757143443111841900
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1757143443111841900
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https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1757143443111841900

Helleofabore · 15/02/2024 20:41

AdamRyan · 15/02/2024 20:36

Fine, if you want to discuss schools on here let's do that.
I thought it was a thread about RMW

It is about the clip in the thread. A question from White plus the extended question.

The OP included the clip that they wish to discuss. Are you now telling us that you know the OP’s mind better than their own actions ? Are you the OP as a sock account ?

OldCrone · 15/02/2024 20:38

AdamRyan · 15/02/2024 20:36

Fine, if you want to discuss schools on here let's do that.
I thought it was a thread about RMW

It's a thread about the clip in the OP.

OldCrone · 15/02/2024 20:38

AdamRyan · 15/02/2024 20:23

Kicking individual teachers who do that is fine.

Implying all schools are "captured" and transing children is not.

Can you imagine trying to run a school with a couple of thousand children and keep all the children, staff and parents on board with whatever position the school takes? It must be an absolute nightmare.

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I don't think anyone's suggested that all schools are captured and transing children without the parents' knowledge. But you seem to be denying that any are, when there are parents who have posted on here about their own children being socially transitioned at school and the school keeping it a secret from the parents.

AdamRyan · 15/02/2024 20:36

Fine, if you want to discuss schools on here let's do that.
I thought it was a thread about RMW

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 20:33

It’s more the assumption everyone knows who they are and what they do

I’d say that’s a stretch

Helleofabore · 15/02/2024 20:32

So, the issue seems to be that a charity doesn't fit the personal definition of a 'charity' for some posters.

Good to know.

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 20:29

lifeturnsonadime · 15/02/2024 20:27

Not every business is big.

Not everyone works for a business at all !

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Yes there’s so many who wouldn’t deal with them. It’s not that hard to imagine

Helleofabore · 15/02/2024 20:28

Again, what part of Sunak's answer linked to this very thread's OP means that someone insists on a new thread to discuss this issue.

It is relevant to this very thread and it doesn't need a new thread. To continue to double down on this seems dishonest at this stage. Or maybe some posters need to listen to the clip linked to the OP again, or a first time maybe.

lifeturnsonadime · 15/02/2024 20:27

AdamRyan · 15/02/2024 20:11

Grin Everyone knows who stonewall are! Their employer index of the year used to be big business! That's funny...
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Not every business is big.

Not everyone works for a business at all !

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 20:26

SabrinaThwaite · 15/02/2024 20:25

A lobby group masquerading as a charity even. And funded by a fuck ton of public (taxpayers) money.

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Yes I think they lack transparency because even in the definition it’s not a true reflection of what they are doing

lifeturnsonadime · 15/02/2024 20:25

NotBadConsidering · 15/02/2024 19:58

“I’m as GC as anyone, but….”

lol.

When someone tells you who they are believe them.

SabrinaThwaite · 15/02/2024 20:25

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 20:22

‘Charity’ is questionable when thinking of what they do

More a lobby group

A lobby group masquerading as a charity even. And funded by a fuck ton of public (taxpayers) money.

AdamRyan · 15/02/2024 20:23

Leafstamp · 15/02/2024 20:11

@AdamRyan Some schools definitely have staff who are busy indoctrinating children.

Some schools have staff who using children to validate their identity and belief in gender ideology.

Some schools have male teachers who have autogynephelia and are therefore acting out their paraphelia in front of children.

You betcha I am kicking (some) teachers.

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Kicking individual teachers who do that is fine.

Implying all schools are "captured" and transing children is not.

Can you imagine trying to run a school with a couple of thousand children and keep all the children, staff and parents on board with whatever position the school takes? It must be an absolute nightmare.

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 20:22

‘Charity’ is questionable when thinking of what they do

More a lobby group

AdamRyan · 15/02/2024 20:20

Well if someone did hear about them and googled, what they saw would be an accurate reflection of what the charity stood for.

Transparency is good.

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 20:18

Might be sector dependent

Not a dicky bird in mine generally

AdamRyan · 15/02/2024 20:17

I'm not public sector and my previous employers have been all over it. It's possible I'm wrong, but I feel they are a high profile charity

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 20:15

Is it a public sector thing that people would know Stonewall?

We never heard the name at work, it was irrelevant

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 20:13

AdamRyan · 15/02/2024 20:11

Grin Everyone knows who stonewall are! Their employer index of the year used to be big business! That's funny...
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You’ll have to do a street poll and get back to us

You overestimate level of interest from people with lots of other stuff going on

And so what if they don’t know it?

It’s hardly an organisation to praise anymore

AdamRyan · 15/02/2024 20:11

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 20:10

Most people would barely know it imo, and likely not the damaging influence it’s wielding

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Grin Everyone knows who stonewall are! Their employer index of the year used to be big business! That's funny...
Leafstamp · 15/02/2024 20:11

@AdamRyan Some schools definitely have staff who are busy indoctrinating children.

Some schools have staff who using children to validate their identity and belief in gender ideology.

Some schools have male teachers who have autogynephelia and are therefore acting out their paraphelia in front of children.

You betcha I am kicking (some) teachers.