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What is a woman? Asking for some cyclists.

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RandySavage · 07/02/2024 16:56

Over on Singletrack World, a site for middle-aged men who used to cycle, someone has asked ‘What is a woman?’

it’s mostly humorous replies so far, but over on that site many threads end up with flounces, deletions, and bans, no matter how innocuous the subject. There are a couple of TWAW NO DEBATE types over there, so there are bound to be ‘anyone who identifies as such’ answers.

So, what should I tell them?

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PotatoPrimo · 07/02/2024 17:07

Oh gawd, STW is run by idiots who are so right on, they think advocating for women only cycling is transphobic. I wouldn’t waste your time with them.

I met the editor and some of the staff at an event last year. The editor is a woman and so were some of the others. They were lovely

Boiledbeetle · 08/02/2024 07:12

Reading that thread it is blindingly obvious that all the people involved in that thread including the one who scolded others before anyone had even said anything 'contentious' all know what a sodding woman is!

Although I did like the logic of Person B below!

Person A
According to Bob Marley, a woman is a person who doesn’t cry.

Person B

I think Bob was inferring that women make men cry. A lack of woman means no crying. Therefore I conclude that a woman is somebody or something that makes men cry. By this logic the movies ET and Watership Down are women.

WomaninBoots · 07/02/2024 23:58

"The ones that have the body plan built around the production of large gametes, gestation of fetuses and breastfeeding of babies, you incomprehensible morons."

"Also you know what a woman is when you get chicked in a time trial and you hate it"

I'm sick to death of all these idiots pretending they've no idea what male and female are in order to be all cool and progressive or whatthefuckever. Fuck off the lot of you... you bloody know, stop lying,

MrGHardy · 07/02/2024 23:44

To be fair, reading that thread there are very few who are outright cultists. And the few that seem like they are at least put forth what one can call an argument. Of course those are still very silly ("have their identity denied", who in their right mind could possibly think that this is a good argument to allow some males to compete in the female category?). But overall the discussion is incredibly civil considering it's the internet and it's this topic.

RandySavage · 07/02/2024 21:29

I'm not CyclingSam either here or there.

PotatoPrimo
You are correct, there are some lackwits on that thread, but also many great contributions. You can tell that some of the GCish posters are hesitant to say what they believe, but they would not let the 'Be Kind' people get away with it.

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Banoffeepie21 · 07/02/2024 19:20

OP Is this you with a name change CyclingSam?

ZeldaFighter · 07/02/2024 19:12

If you're on there, please mention the safety aspect. It might not be massively relevant but women competing against men get hurt more and hurt worse in certain sports.

Or tell them to ask Hannah Arensman what she thinks .

popebishop · 07/02/2024 17:33

The thing that all women have in common is a feeling. All children know what that feeling is so we must change their bodies, but adults find it so confusing they can't even begin to put it into words. It's not personality, behaviour, likes or skills, it's that thing, you know.

In fact it's so hard to say what it is, that essentially there's no difference between men and women, it's just that feeling, you know.

Anyway let's campaign to draft laws based on that thanks

Tempnamechng · 07/02/2024 17:31

The only answer can ever be Adult Human Female - I love the woke tripping up over their own inclusive talk though, if it wasn't so dangerous to women's sex protected rights it would be hugely entertaining.

RandySavage · 07/02/2024 17:17

I wouldn’t waste your time with them

It's mostly quite good humoured as long as you avoid certain threads, and it is really useful if you ever have a bike problem ... or just about any other problem - somebody over there always has good knowledge of just about anything you could want to know.

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Springcleaninginsummer · 07/02/2024 17:11

If you would ring your bell and cycle furiously towards this person expecting them to leap into a hedge or the road or otherwise make way for you - that is a woman. If it is a person that you would courteously stop for - that is a man. My observation of MAMIL etiquette round here.

PotatoPrimo · 07/02/2024 17:09

I came off their site after they launched a women only section for anyone who had she/her pronouns in their sign up bio. 🙄

PotatoPrimo · 07/02/2024 17:07

Oh gawd, STW is run by idiots who are so right on, they think advocating for women only cycling is transphobic. I wouldn’t waste your time with them.

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